Zimmerman Self-Defense Trial off to Acceptable Start :)

[gunsmith]

Big Fat Racist Thug George Zimmerman breaking fundemental safety rule of 'keep finger off trigger'

[jshuberg]

Based on the fact that most of the witnesses for the prosecution have done more to substantiate Zimmerman's account of self defense, it's possible the judge might simply dismiss the case for lack of the prosecution making a case after they rest. This is costing the people a considerable amount of money to prosecute, and if the prosecution doesn't have any cards left up their sleeves, it could simply be thrown out as a waste of taxpayer money.

I don't think it's very likely, but I do think its the right thing for the judge to do if this is the best the prosecution can do. Zimmerman's life has been destroyed over this, and so far it looks like it has all been completely unwarranted. Those responsible for destroying his life over apparently zero credible evidence supporting their case should be held to account for their actions.

A dismissal of the case, Zimmerman winning his lawsuit against NBC and living in luxury for the rest of his life, the lawyers who decided to bring the case being disbarred, and a public and heart felt apology from Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc for beating the racism drum when there wasn't any would be the best way for justice to be served.

[dismal]

In other words, please drop it. If someone here is a racist or homophobe or whatever, you're Internet scoldings aren't going to change any hearts or minds. All you're accomplishing is the feeding of the trolls, the derailing of the thread, and perhaps a feeling of superiority in that you are singularly tasked with chastising all the rest of us children when we stray from your sense of morality.

Please man, show some restraint. Don't take the bait. Let the thread stay on topic as long as possible. The forum is not a better place for your morality policing. Thanks.

+1, turning most every topic into a pissing contest doesn't help the forum.

I suggest a new forum rule, a person will only have the right to use the word "racist" if they first admit to being racist themselves. (And that probably should apply to most any -ist word.)

[gunsmith]

Forum Buddies: Want to raise your game take 40 minutes to watch Zim on Hannity.
Leave the 'Low Information Voters' in the Gutter

[Fearless Leader]

Some people like to jump to the conclusion of racism, or homophobia, etc. It's a knee jerk reaction for some with a modern liberal sense of "tolerance". The whole nonsense that the Zimmerman case was based in racism is glaring evidence of this. Both an FBI probe, and now the Martin family have stated publicly that the case has nothing to do with racism. This after the witness for the prosecution stated Martin referred to Zimmerman as a "cracker". Also after many people here on this forum initially decried racism as being at the core of the case, incorrectly I might add.

There are quite a few of us who see others jump to the conclusion of racism at every turn, and find it disgusting. People who believe that an unsubstantiated accusation of racism is as every bit as ugly and disgusting as actual racism is. Some of these people are provocateurs, and like to poke the bear and see people get all worked up. They might even use slightly racially tinged slurs or statements to watch people fly off the handle, or to derail a thread.

Heffay, I believe you've been trolled. And you've reacted perfectly to it. In fact, you've completely lived up to the stereotype of the "white liberal" by your reactions. I'm not saying its necessarily a bad thing, but it's somewhat amusing and predictable by those who don't suffer from your chosen point of view.

As entertaining as it is watching you derail thread after thread, presuming to correct all of us Neanderthals on issues of racism, homophobia, what's best for the "gun community" etc. at some point it really gets old, and the majority of us would simply prefer to intelligently discuss the topic at hand.

In other words, please drop it. If someone here is a racist or homophobe or whatever, you're Internet scoldings aren't going to change any hearts or minds. All you're accomplishing is the feeding of the trolls, the derailing of the thread, and perhaps a feeling of superiority in that you are singularly tasked with chastising all the rest of us children when we stray from your sense of morality.

Please man, show some restraint. Don't take the bait. Let the thread stay on topic as long as possible. The forum is not a better place for your morality policing. Thanks.

+1 Well stated!

[Heffay]

I suggest a new forum rule, a person will only have the right to use the word "racist" if they first admit to being racist themselves. (And that probably should apply to most any -ist word.)

There is a thread in off-topic where we are discussing possible forum rule changes. Maybe you post your suggestion there?

[Heffay]

Altering the spelling of a name or term in an Internet site is typically done when you want to keep your content out of a search engine's results on the primary term. Adding an 'o' helps do this without really affecting the readability of those viewing it. No, it isn't perfect, but yes, it does lower the ranking of the result. If you want to have a discussion but don't want to be front and center in Google results this helps. It is definitely not the same as subbing 'Obummer' for the other name. That is intentional. And totally appropriate, because it makes a point.

BB

You're arguing that he is calling Trayvon "Trayvoon" in order to reduce the odds that Google search will pick it up???

[gunsmith]

Anyone have a link to a video game like animation of the event?

[gunsmith]

Ouch. This went wrong.

Target practice with Trayvon Martin

By Jonathan Capehart,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pos ... on-martin/

We have known for a long time that “Trayvon Martin brings out the worst in people.” That he inspires “rabid” hate in so many others. And that folks like to play “Games” with his image. But Ron King defied decency. The Port Canaveral police sergeant showed up at a firearms training session on April 4 with two targets that resembled Trayvon Martin, the unarmed 17-year-old killed by George Zimmerman in Sanford, Fla., last year. King offered the target to two fellow officers, who declined the offer and promptly reported him to the police chief. “Whether his act was hatred or stupidity, neither is tolerable,” John Walsh, chief executive of Port Canaveral, told WFTV in Orlando. King was fired on Friday. But he’s not going quietly.

In a video posted Saturday on YouTube, King said he had become the “focus of media attention based on lies, false information and political agendas.” This was after he apologized to the Martin family for “being used as a pawn in somebody’s political agenda.” He said it is “a complete fabrication” that he offered the target to others to shoot. He said it was used as a “no-shoot training aid.”

Ouch...Lose/ lose / lose. What's interesting here is that this shows the tempers have indeed calmed SINCE the shooting...I think we're forgetting how close to race riots we were in spring of 2012. And Georgie is paying the price for calming things down....many will be satisfied by the simple fact that THERE IS A TRIAL...win or lose THERE WAS A TRIAL.

Odd thought...Baraka Hussein is looking like a turd these days especially in that he's the first (half) black-raised-White- president and he's DIVIDED the country on race. He could pull a shocker and

A) If Zim is Convicted PARDON HIM AND INVITE HIM UP TO CAMP DAVID FOR A WEEKEND

B) if Zimmy is Acquitted INVITE HIM UP TO CAMP DAVID FOR A WEEKEND

Barry Soweto (aka Mr. President) would look like a likeable human being instead of such a clueless Turd.

EDITED TO ADD: Could somebody in the NSA fax that idea over to the White House?

[Heffay]

Some days I miss third grade.

Not today though. It feels like I never left.

[gunsmith]

I keep coming back to this image as the 1 picture = 1000 words.


I hope Zimmy gets at least 2 mil from NBC and the same from ABC...their superstar anchors are getting over 10 mill each....what would they do if they didn't have real people to eff over for 'news'



http://abcnews.go.com/US/neighborhood-w ... c-HuL0n18E

By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) and SENI TIENABESO (@seniABC)
SANFORD, Fla., March 20, 2012

The Florida police department handling the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teen by a self-appointed neighborhood watch leader admitted to ABC News tonight that investigators missed a possible racist remark by the shooter as he spoke to police dispatchers moments before the killing.

The admission comes a day after the Justice Department announced that it has launched an investigation of the slaying of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman last month as a possible hate crime.

On a tape of one of Zimmerman's 911 calls the night of the shooting, he is heard saying under his breath what sounds like "f**ing coons." Seconds later he confronted Martin and after a brief scuffle shot him dead.

[XDM45]

That's not a personal attack. That's a stereotype.

Ok. Go into Southside Chicago or East Saint Louis and yell the N word. Watch what happens. Feel free to say "It wasn't a personal attack"... of course you'll have to say it through the s-storm you'll find coming you way, but let me know how that works out for ya. "It wasn't a personal attack, just a stereotype. C'mon, it's not THAT bad is it?" I'm an OCer, your now-edited comment still offends me because I know your true thoughts and feelings on the matter. Not forgiven. End of story.

Anyway...... moving on............

To comment on another poster's words...."Zimmerman's life has been destroyed over this, and so far it looks like it has all been completely unwarranted. Those responsible for destroying his life over apparently zero credible evidence supporting their case should be held to account for their actions. "

Sadly, it happens all too often. Even if and when they present the paperwork from the court system which declares them 100% innocent, there's still that "... yeah, BUT.... you were in PRISON for 20 years. NEXT!!" No matter what, Trayon lost his life, and so did George, and in some ways, Trayvon got the better end of the deal in my opinion. Unfortunately, as mentioned above, the innocent get screwed, and the guilty, once they've paid their debt to society, are still punished. "What? You had a felony years ago? No good job for you."

George has already lost on this level. Now the question remains, what about on the other levels? Criminally? Civilly? Much like Casey Anthony (although she was really guilty and found innocent), do you think she or he will ever have a normal life again? There's many kinds of Hells, many kinds of prisons, many kinds of life, not all are equal.

....and as I've said before, even if someone like George was to get off completely criminally, civilly, didn't have his life ruined as mentioned above, didn't drain their assets fighting the charges, etc; even if ALL of that was somehow astromagically true, that person still needs to look themselves in the mirror and live with the fact that they took another human life. Even if it's justified, that's not an easy task. If it is, that's a scary thought in and of itself.

Now I've only known people who have killed others (soldiers, cops, etc), so I don't claim to have first-hand knowledge of killing someone or the effects as mentioned above, so if someone who has taken another life wants to backup my statements with their own viewpoint, please do. I also realize that it's different for everyone, but I suspect I'm pretty close if not dead on. I hope I will never have to find out first-hand knowledge of this and make my own posting.

[gunsmith]

Just want to note for the record Jerry Rivers (aka Geraldo Rivera) is a horses ass.
On his Saturday Night show he just said 'How can Zimmerman claim self defense when HE'S THE ONE THAT STARTED THE FIGHT'

Zimmerman did not start a fight. He did make a young thug feel unwelcome and ashamed of being a Thug. If Tray-baby is anything like Fat-Momma....He was feeling 'PUNKED' got his 'BACK UP' like we saw FAT-MOMMA do and he was going to show CREEPY WHITE CRAKKA who is THE MAN.

[XDM45]

Just want to note for the record Jerry Rivers (aka Geraldo Rivera) is a horses ass.
On his Saturday Night show he just said 'How can Zimmerman claim self defense when HE'S THE ONE THAT STARTED THE FIGHT'

Zimmerman did not start a fight. He did make a young thug feel unwelcome and ashamed of being a Thug. If Tray-baby is anything like Fat-Momma....He was feeling 'PUNKED' got his 'BACK UP' like we saw FAT-MOMMA do and he was going to show CREEPY WHITE CRAKKA who is THE MAN.

He was just tryin' to keep it real yo. Dey gots to respecta mofo fo dat.

For me, it's not about race, it's about stupid. I've seen dumb in all kinds of colors, and as Jesse said, you can't legislate it. As any good IT person knows, you can't fix it either. Stupid just is. No one with any intelligence is going to act and speak certain ways. If that becomes the norm, then deity-of-choice help us all. What will it be like in 30 years? I can see it now... the average corporate America IT person for desktop support....

"You dawg, Imma here to fix your porn box b. Yeah boyzzz. I finna get dat cable rite now and wire it up to da InterWebz where the b-ches is poppin'!!"

[gunsmith]

What I find the most curious thing about Week One is:

On the second tier cable shows the 'Afro-Females' (Dark complected, nappy-haired or Staightened, Vagino-Americans)
almost uniformly describe 'Fat-Momma' as cross between Madame Curie, Joan of Arc, The Virgin Mary, Betsy Ross, Ameila Erhardt and a Female Einstein.

They're asked, Wasn't it a little embarrassing to see her 'BE-SO-GHETTO' on national TV and they're in 500,000 percent DENIAL that she's become A GLOBAL LAUGHINGSTOCK. "Oh she was a FANTASTIC WITNESS, SO REAL, COMFORTABLE IN HER SKIN, ZIMMERMAN IS TOAST"

They wouldn't give an inch....FAT MOMMA is a Living Saint, Genius and Fashion Trend-Setter.

Next week all the New York City Anchor Babes will be wearing 4 inch Hoop Ear-rings from Walmart.

On the other hand when I win The Powerball next week and become a philanthropist I'm sending her $100,00.00 and telling her "Spend 10, Save 90 and don't take Sh!!t from nobody" I want to smack the bastards who never taught her to speak English.

Here we go: This Bimbo was one of the worst:

Her name is Santita Jackson,Surprise, Surpise. Daughter of THE OTHER JUSTICE BROTHER: JESSE JACKSON.
Sista of Jailbird Felon Jesse Jackson Jr.

This is so sad...Fat Momma is on one end of the stupid spectrum and this Itchbay is on the OVER EDUCATED end of the Stupid spectrum. I'm sure she's all over YouTube (and she's a FOX contributor )...this Ninny's bloodstream is pure Lib-Kool-Aid.

Wonder how often she'll show up at Jolliet Prison w/ cookies for Jesse Jr. who is in there for of all things....WHITE collar crime.