MN PTC does this just cover pistols?

[benny]

Every year in our DNR Hunter safety class we get asked about the PTC clause.

The CO who usually comes to each class has repeatedly stated NO YOU CAN NOT USE YOUR PTC TO TRANSPORT YOUR LOADED DEER RIFLE!!!
You can transport an unloaded rifle, shotgun or handgun out of a case in areas with less than 2500 population ,and NOT in the 5 county area around Minneapolis, ST paul other wise it must be unloaded and cased in a container made to transport firearms. Not your pillow case either, a manufactured for firearms case!

This is stated in the DNR transport regs, sorry I don't have time to search them to post a link.

You are okay to carry your handgun loaded in your car, truck only if you have a permit to carry . The subject of knives never has came up, nor has rocket launchers LOL!!!

Benny

[Seismic Sam]

I had had a suspicion for some time that the pistol ONLY in the passenger compartment was because of DNR regs, and as we all know, if you're the kind of repeat felon who robs 7-11's and accidentally kills a clerk, you ARE looking at a 10 year sentence. Be a person with no record but gets caught with an illegally poached deer by the DNR, however, and you're going to be making little rocks out of big ones for 20 - 25 in Sandstone.....

[ttousi]

Every year in our DNR Hunter safety class we get asked about the PTC clause.

The CO who usually comes to each class has repeatedly stated NO YOU CAN NOT USE YOUR PTC TO TRANSPORT YOUR LOADED DEER RIFLE!!!
You can transport an unloaded rifle, shotgun or handgun out of a case in areas with less than 2500 population ,and NOT in the 5 county area around Minneapolis, ST paul other wise it must be unloaded and cased in a container made to transport firearms. Not your pillow case either, a manufactured for firearms case!

This is stated in the DNR transport regs, sorry I don't have time to search them to post a link.

You are okay to carry your handgun loaded in your car, truck only if you have a permit to carry . The subject of knives never has came up, nor has rocket launchers LOL!!!

Benny

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[Hmac]

Also - your MN Permit to Carry does not cover knives (of any type) or swords. Just firearms.

B

As a side note, the statute restricting carry of knives in the city of Minneapolis has an exemption for carry permit holders acting "within the scope of their permit." Other cities may have similar language in their statutes.

My permit says, in bold letters at the top "State of Minnesota Permit to Carry a Pistol".

I would assume that that defines the scope of my permit and that is, carrying pistols, not firearms in general nor knives.

You can carry any kind of firearm that is otherwise legal -- handgun, rifle, shotgun -- with a Minnesota Permit to Carry. You can carry more than one on your person. You can carry them openly or concealed. This information should have been part of your carry training.

I don't think this is correct. I mean, you can indeed carry more than one pistol, but a State of Minnesota Permit to Carry a Pistol doesn't have anything to do with long guns.

[LePetomane]

I had had a suspicion for some time that the pistol ONLY in the passenger compartment was because of DNR regs, and as we all know, if you're the kind of repeat felon who robs 7-11's and accidentally kills a clerk, you ARE looking at a 10 year sentence. Be a person with no record but gets caught with an illegally poached deer by the DNR, however, and you're going to be making little rocks out of big ones for 20 - 25 in Sandstone.....

I hope you have the sentences mixed up.

[ttousi]

I don't think this is correct. I mean, you can indeed carry more than one pistol, but a State of Minnesota Permit to Carry a Pistol doesn't have anything to do with long guns.

you are correct...........624.714 does not state it however:

624.7181 addresses it

624.7181, Minnesota Statutes 2007
Copyright © 2007 by the Office of Revisor of Statutes, State of Minnesota.
624.7181 RIFLES AND SHOTGUNS IN PUBLIC PLACES.
Subdivision 1. Definitions. For purposes of this section, the following terms have the
meanings given them.
(a) "BB gun" means a device that fires or ejects a shot measuring .18 of an inch or less in
diameter.
(b) "Carry" does not include:
(1) the carrying of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun to, from, or at a place where firearms are
repaired, bought, sold, traded, or displayed, or where hunting, target shooting, or other lawful
activity involving firearms occurs, or at funerals, parades, or other lawful ceremonies;
(2) the carrying by a person of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun that is unloaded and in a gun
case expressly made to contain a firearm, if the case fully encloses the firearm by being zipped,
snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, and no portion of the firearm is exposed;
(3) the carrying of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun by a person who has a permit under section
624.714;

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color by me

And it has been tested

[bstrawse]

^^ exactly as Tom says.
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[codilly]

So let me get this straight you can carry a loaded long gun in public if you have a MN PTC? Because I have always been told the opposite?

[plblark]

But don't confuse carry with transport.


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[Hmac]

So let me get this straight you can carry a loaded long gun in public if you have a MN PTC? Because I have always been told the opposite?

MN PTC has nothing to do with long guns, neither carrying them nor transporting them.

[codilly]

So then from what I am reading in this thread I can legally carry a loaded long gun in public as long as I legally own the gun with no other credentials needed? I am not going to do this but just curious.

[cobb]

So let me get this straight you can carry a loaded long gun in public if you have a MN PTC? Because I have always been told the opposite?

You have been told opposite how?

You can carry a loaded long gun in public even without a PTC, I did for many years prior to having a MN PTC when I was pheasant and grouse hunting. That would be carrying in public and legal without a MN PTC as long as a person did not violate any city, township, etc., statute/law.

Can you transport a loaded long gun with a MN PTC?
Per the MN DNR, no you cannot transport a loaded long gun with a MN PTC, but you can carry a loaded long-gun under a MN PTC.

A difference between carry & transport.

Although what appears to be legal, I do not think it is always prudent and I will get flamed for that statement.

And this

(b) "Carry" does not include:
(1) the carrying of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun to, from, or at a place where firearms are
repaired, bought, sold, traded, or displayed, or where hunting, target shooting, or other lawful
activity involving firearms occurs, or at funerals, parades, or other lawful ceremonies;
(2) the carrying by a person of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun that is unloaded and in a gun
case expressly made to contain a firearm, if the case fully encloses the firearm by being zipped,
snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, and no portion of the firearm is exposed;
(3) the carrying of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun by a person who has a permit under section
624.714;

So please clarify what you have been told opposite of this...

[Hmac]

I give up. The more we discuss it, the less I understand it.

[codilly]

I understand you can carry a shotgun and so on while hunting. I have been told numerous times that IF I wanted to I could not say carry my loaded AR15 on my back walking down the street in MN. I would not do this for one of the same reasons I don't open carry a pistol.

[Back In Black]

So let me get this straight you can carry a loaded long gun in public if you have a MN PTC? Because I have always been told the opposite?

Yes you can. However, the wording is a bit confusing for us non-legal eagle types. The key wording is in MN Statue 624.7181 as ttousi has highlighted in his post above.

Subd. 2.Penalties.

Whoever carries a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun on or about the person in a public place is guilty of a gross misdemeanor. A person under the age of 21 who carries a semiautomatic military-style assault weapon, as defined in section 624.712, subdivision 7, on or about the person in a public place is guilty of a felony.

Subdivision 1.Definitions.

For purposes of this section, the following terms have the meanings given them.

(a) "BB gun" means a device that fires or ejects a shot measuring .18 of an inch or less in diameter.

(b) "Carry" does not include:

(1) the carrying of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun to, from, or at a place where firearms are repaired, bought, sold, traded, or displayed, or where hunting, target shooting, or other lawful activity involving firearms occurs, or at funerals, parades, or other lawful ceremonies;

(2) the carrying by a person of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun that is unloaded and in a gun case expressly made to contain a firearm, if the case fully encloses the firearm by being zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened, and no portion of the firearm is exposed;

(3) the carrying of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun by a person who has a permit under section 624.714;

(4) the carrying of an antique firearm as a curiosity or for its historical significance or value; or

(5) the transporting of a BB gun, rifle, or shotgun in compliance with section 97B.045.

In other words, if you are in compliance with any of the 1-5 conditions listed above, you are not in violation of the law. Therefore, if you have a permit under section 624.714, you can legally "carry" a rifle and/or shotgun in a public place as defined in (c) of the statute.

That's the way I understand it. If I'm wrong, please correct me.