Who's up for a challenge?

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What were your results?

0-40 -- Plinker
0
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42-50 -- Above Average
2
11%
52-68 -- Marksman
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No votes
70-84 -- Sharp Shooter
2
11%
86 and higher -- Expert
5
29%
Haven't taken it yet
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47%
 
Total votes : 17

Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby AFTERMATH on Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:37 pm

Nougat wrote:how exactly do you suggest using a pistol like a rifle? the the lack of a stock to hold against your shoulder is what makes it different. how agaist the rules is using two hands when firing a pistol (if its not a revolver and you don't cover the muzzle or put your hand behind the slide)? It does say designed to be, does that mean using two hands is a nono?


I don't mean shooting it like a rife, as in position - More along the lines of getting rifle-like results from a pistol. Though there is no substitute for a rifle.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby yuppiejr on Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:10 pm

Nougat wrote:how exactly do you suggest using a pistol like a rifle? the the lack of a stock to hold against your shoulder is what makes it different. how agaist the rules is using two hands when firing a pistol (if its not a revolver and you don't cover the muzzle or put your hand behind the slide)? It does say designed to be, does that mean using two hands is a nono?


I was thinking of shooting the challenge one-handed with a 60# draw compound bow after watching a couple loops of Kate Upton showing us her version of the Cat Daddy on Youtube.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby minnhawk on Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:36 pm

Uh, I don't think this challenge even contemplates anyone using a scope at 25 yards. Think rifleman as in The Green Mountain Boys or Sargent York, Daniel Boone or Davey Crockett. C'mon guys.....
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby Countryfried Frank on Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:38 pm

minnhawk wrote:Uh, I don't think this challenge even contemplates anyone using a scope at 25 yards. Think rifleman as in The Green Mountain Boys or Sargent York, Daniel Boone or Davey Crockett. C'mon guys.....

I'm going out on a limb and guessing that you haven't yet made it to the 1:00 point in the video linked in the OP.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby xd ED on Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:53 pm

I've actually found that shooting, or at least dry firing at a 25 yd target with a scope(10x), prone aids in developing control of the rifle. You see the effect of every twitch, breath, and heartbeat.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby shooter115 on Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:15 am

I'm down......targets printed. Now if I can ever get home before it's dark.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby minnhawk on Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:29 pm

Well, I looked at the video to the one minute mark and saw the scope. Officially LAME in my opinion. Really? While I can see that dry firing through a scope could be a good training aid, shooting at a target 25 yards away with a scope and then being proud enough of your efforts to record your score on a website is kinda like everyone getting a ribbon or trophy in elementary school. No challenge. I thought we were celebrating riflemen. This is celebrating someone who can pull a trigger.....no real skill needed.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby Countryfried Frank on Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:35 am

FWIW, I agree that it doesn't make for much of a competition. However, it is good marketing. It gets people out to shoot a rifle that otherwise wouldn't and it demonstrates to the potential customer (probably not you judging by your sig line) that they have more to learn about precision rifle shooting while offering them a clinic where they can learn those skills. And it looks fun.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby xd ED on Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:49 am

To those who never shot with a sling- and I'm convinced many shooters never get off sandbags/ tables- it will be a new experience, which some may well embrace.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby yuppiejr on Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:08 am

It's fairly easy to ratchet up the challenge level if one so desires... Sprint 100 yards and then drop and do 20 pushups before grabbing the rifle and firing the string... add a mag change at 2 or 5 rounds... cut the time down to 50 or even 40 seconds... shoot a bone-stock factory rifle with original iron sights... If you are shooting a rifle capable of 1" groups at 100 yards challenge yourself to shoot .25" groups at 25 yards.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby Scratch on Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:00 am

Hey I don't know about you guys... But I had a heck of a time staying on target in prone, with no sling, rest or bags. And I had a scope! If you guys can get all 10's in the same circumstances... More power to you.
It shows me what I need to work on for sure.

And hey, whatever gets more people shooting is good for all of us! I love a friendly competition, and this thread, leading me to that friendly, family, oriented challenge is the reason I went out and shot that day. I'm sure it was the reason for a lot of people. They made the challenge easy to set up, easy to complete, fun and competitive, for any age. Who cares about the yardage and sights.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby shooter115 on Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:57 am

minnhawk wrote:Well, I looked at the video to the one minute mark and saw the scope. Officially LAME in my opinion. Really? While I can see that dry firing through a scope could be a good training aid, shooting at a target 25 yards away with a scope and then being proud enough of your efforts to record your score on a website is kinda like everyone getting a ribbon or trophy in elementary school. No challenge. I thought we were celebrating riflemen. This is celebrating someone who can pull a trigger.....no real skill needed.

As someone that shoots in a 4 position rimfire league where the bullseye is .17", shooting this prone will be a walk in the park. As someone that runs our local range.....there are a lot, if not a good majority of shooters that would struggle with this if you take away any support. My plan is just to have fun with it and try some different things......how fast can you do this in all 4 of the basic shooting positions?

Since none of my 10/22's have a rear sling stud I had to order an 1 1/4" swivel to attach my cuff sling...Hopefully I'll get out this weekend for a little fun. Sounds like a good excuse to bust out my 39M too.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby yuppiejr on Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:27 am

Hitting a 1" target consistently at 25 yards from an unsupported position for a shooter without any real training even with a scope is harder than it appears. Someone who's used to sitting at a bench with their forend on bags blasting through a scope is likely in for a rude awakening - particularly when it comes to figuring out how to use the sling properly for support.

If this is a gateway to interest people who want to further improve their skills by attending a more formal marksmanship clinics or shooting programs it's good for them, and certainly good for the shooting community at large (accurate shots are safe shots). I also happen to think that one attribute of being a true rifleman is humility, a desire to further one's skills regardless what "level" they are at and encourage/enable the growth of others in the craft rather than belittling those that are just beginning the journey or may not understand their own limits.

minnhawk wrote:Well, I looked at the video to the one minute mark and saw the scope. Officially LAME in my opinion. Really? While I can see that dry firing through a scope could be a good training aid, shooting at a target 25 yards away with a scope and then being proud enough of your efforts to record your score on a website is kinda like everyone getting a ribbon or trophy in elementary school. No challenge. I thought we were celebrating riflemen. This is celebrating someone who can pull a trigger.....no real skill needed.
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby SparkyJeff on Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:08 am

yuppiejr wrote: challenge yourself to shoot .25" groups at .25 yards.


.25 yards? I haven't tried it, But I hope I can keep things together at 9 inches.
it might be a 1 inch, ragged scorched hole. i might need some more durable paper. ;)
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Re: Who's up for a challenge?

Postby Erud on Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:18 am

SparkyJeff wrote:
yuppiejr wrote: challenge yourself to shoot .25" groups at .25 yards.


.25 yards? I haven't tried it, But I hope I can keep things together at 9 inches.
it might be a 1 inch, ragged scorched hole. i might need some more durable paper. ;)


Now that's funny right there! :bravo:
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