P938 Holster, cocked&locked

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P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby Dutch on Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:11 pm

Bought this one on Ebay a couple of months ago, seller is Coye57. Also available in different styles and for different makes and types.
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Postby tntsl on Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:39 am

That looks like a nice holster. Have you tried it out for a full day yet? How do you like it?
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby Dutch on Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:56 pm

Yep, hardly notice it's there. Hides easy (for me) under a not tucked in t-shirt. I toss an extra mag in my left front pocket, but now they have a model with a built-in mag pouch.
Normally I carried a 329NG in a Galco Silhouette, which I liked so much that I wanted the same for the 938. Taking a nap on the couch laying on my right side? No problem.
I like the thumb-break feature with a chambered round in a single action pistol.
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby xd ED on Fri Sep 27, 2013 6:25 pm

Couple of thoughts:

Thumb breaks have been known to move the thumb safety to 'off' with some gun/ holster combinations. that one looks like it might have potential to do so if the butt of the pistol was pushed/ knocked forward.
A magazine carried in the gun holster is going to be at a minimum a a long, slow, awkward reach with your weak hand, and difficult to impossible to grab in some circumstances, if you are carrying in the 4-5 'o clock position.
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby Dutch on Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:56 pm

I have tried and the thumb break strap does not allow the gun to move forward (the hammer touches the strap preventing this).
I realize it's not ideal to have a 2nd mag in the pocket of your pants; I haven't found a magazine pouch so far and the 938 magazines are so tiny that it doesn't cause discomfort in your pocket.
If anyone has found a mag pouch for your belt, please share.
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby bensdad on Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:45 pm

Dutch wrote:I have tried and the thumb break strap does not allow the gun to move forward (the hammer touches the strap preventing this).
I realize it's not ideal to have a 2nd mag in the pocket of your pants; I haven't found a magazine pouch so far and the 938 magazines are so tiny that it doesn't cause discomfort in your pocket.
If anyone has found a mag pouch for your belt, please share.


XD Ed is saying that a mag pouch ON THE HOLSTER is not good. In the pocket (weak-side) is far better. Anything on weak-side is better.
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby xd ED on Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:23 pm

bensdad wrote:
Dutch wrote:I have tried and the thumb break strap does not allow the gun to move forward (the hammer touches the strap preventing this).
I realize it's not ideal to have a 2nd mag in the pocket of your pants; I haven't found a magazine pouch so far and the 938 magazines are so tiny that it doesn't cause discomfort in your pocket.
If anyone has found a mag pouch for your belt, please share.


XD Ed is saying that a mag pouch ON THE HOLSTER is not good. In the pocket (weak-side) is far better. Anything on weak-side is better.


^^THIS^^

Simulate a reload with a mag in the holster: Stick the mag in your belt in the approximate position of your holster, and with your gun drawn on a target, try getting to your spare mag with your weak hand and doing a reload.

A mag in your left rear pocket (assuming a right handed shooter), would be far better, as would anywhere on your weak side, as stated above.

That's a pretty popular gun, there's got to be some mag pouches out there w/ belt clips... if even something semi-generic like Uncle Mike's.

Perhaps contacting http://www.sideguardholsters.com/index.html will be helpful.
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby ninjedi on Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:29 am

so the point of the thumb break is weapon retention, and also it goes between the hammer to prevent accidental discharge?
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby bensdad on Fri Oct 04, 2013 7:36 am

ninjedi wrote:so the point of the thumb break is weapon retention, and also it goes between the hammer to prevent accidental discharge?


Yup. I've only ever used a couple (not a fan), but the thumb-break gives way when you pretty much just grab the gun normally. It's hard to explain. You don't unsnap it with your thumb so much as with the webbing between your thumb and pointer finger. You grab the gun (with thumb pointed a little more 12 o'clock than normal) and the break opens.
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby xd ED on Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:10 am

ninjedi wrote:so the point of the thumb break is weapon retention, and also it goes between the hammer to prevent accidental discharge?


Weapon retention yes
Most thumb break designs are not for condition one(cocked/ locked) pistols
Referring to the OP's photo, it's not difficult to imagine with age/ softening/ wear the top strap wearing/shrinking/curling enough to allow movement of the pistol to the point the strap can move the thumb safety- in this case apparently an ambidextrous safety.
I use a thumb break holster for a revolver I sometimes open carry in the woods/ brush. It helps preventing the gun being lost if snagged, or while climbing, or stumbling.
They break open pretty readily if, rather than first wrapping the thumb around the grip, the thumb is flexed forward, sliding between the top strap, and tab. Like any drawing/ presentation technique, it should be practiced to perfection, and beyond.
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby ninjedi on Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:48 pm

So in your opinion would it be better to use an OWB holster that covers the safety or not? (speaking strictly open-top here)

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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby bensdad on Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:33 pm

The bottom one is pretty much exactly how I carry (for owb. My iwb looks pretty much the same though). Never had any problems ('bout six years now - all day every day).
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby Dutch on Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:37 pm

If I had to pick between those 2 I'd pick the bottom one: If there's movement of the gun in the top holster, I can see easily the safety getting switched off.
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby xd ED on Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:24 am

A 3rd vote foe the exposed safety of the two.
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Re: P938 Holster, cocked&locked

Postby ninjedi on Wed Nov 27, 2013 9:50 am

I have one other question -- can someone briefly explain the advantages of a belt-loop holster (as pictured in the op) over the clip-on belt holster such as the one that Sig provides with the purchase of the P938? I'm guessing belt-loop keeps it closer to your body, rendering it more concealable, but just wanted to be sure that is really the case here. thanks

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