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Want to build an AR

Postby Garret7857 on Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:43 pm

Hello everyone!
I've decided that over the next year or so I want to build my own AR (not all at once, just every now and then pick up parts when I feel like it) and I was wondering if anyone knows any good sources of telling me everything I need to buy and how to assemble it. Kind of treating this project like a model airplane that I can defend myself with :lol: . Going to probably buy a lower and lower parts kit first.

Thanks,

-Garret the gun noob

Edit: Another question I have is since me and my dad are still keeping our guns kind of hidden from my mom until she is more comfortable with guns, is it possible to get parts sent to a PO box (obviously not the lower or anything else that has to go through a FFL).

Thanks again :P
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby Scratch on Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:50 pm

There should be some good sales coming up on Black Friday, and you could send all parts minus the lower to a friends address if you want.
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby ARBuilder on Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:19 pm

I wouldn't focus on buying certain parts at a time I would focus on buying the parts when they are good deals or on sale.
Sales come by all the time lately just be ready to jump on them when they do.
If you would consider buying some blemished parts just send me a pm and I can hook you up with some things when I get them.

A couple good places to check are
SOTA Arms
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby shooter115 on Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:19 pm

Palmetto State Armory is constantly running really good deals on parts.
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby Garret7857 on Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:24 pm

But are there any sites or anything that tell me everything I need to buy? Or do they basically sell all the mechanisms as parts kits?
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby hornswaggle on Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:29 pm

I would recommend you check out the Brownell's web site and they've got a ton of videos on how to build an AR step by step. That's a good place to start.
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby Garret7857 on Fri Sep 27, 2013 1:34 pm

hornswaggle wrote:I would recommend you check out the Brownell's web site and they've got a ton of videos on how to build an AR step by step. That's a good place to start.


ok cool. thanks :D

Probably going to start shopping around for a lower next paycheck
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby farmerj on Fri Sep 27, 2013 4:45 pm

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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby AFTERMATH on Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:55 pm

ArfCom has some pretty good write-ups as well. But basically for starting out the simple list is:


Stripped lower receiver - Buy locally and you won't have to worry about shipping and you can find 'em around $100. The only FFL item.

Lower Parts Kit(LPK) - All the small parts necessary for completing a lower receiver in one convenient package. Trigger group, springs, pins/detents, grip/screw, etc...

Stock Assembly - if purchased as an assembly it should come with: Stock, buffer/extension tube, buffer/recoil spring, castle nut and receiver end plate.

OPTIONAL - Lower BUILD kit - If you purchase a lower build kit, such as Palmetto often offers - it will have the LPK and Stock Assy.
Everything you need for the lower half, minus the receiver.

The lower half can be put together with minimal tools - hammer/punch, vise-grips, screw driver, spanner wrench.

Now the upper half is where things begin to get a little hairy. In both complexity and tools needed.
Your best bet, as a beginner is to buy an:

Upper Receiver group: Upper receiver, barrel, barrel extension, barrel nut, gas tube/pin, gas block/front sight base/pins, flash hider/crush washer, handguard snap-ring, weld spring, handguard slip ring, and handguard cap - All assembled. Depending upon the purchase this may come with or without: Handguards, charging handle and bolt carrier group(BCG).
If not included you will have to buy and install the handguards/BCG seperately.
If you're getting just the standard set-up, you purchase drop in handguards of the sight-radius length(i.e. Carbine, Mid, or Rifle).
If going with free-float or other non-standard handguard rigs - different parts/tools and gas block/sight base configurations may be required.
If building the upper half from scratch, make sure you either get a 'complete' upper receiver or complete a stripped upper by purchasing an upper receiver parts kit - To include: forward assist assy, ejection cover, and associated parts. If A1/2 stripped; you'll likely need the rear sight components as well. A3/4 - purchase additional sighting system.

Tools, at minimum: AR armorer's wrench, torque wrench, hammer/punch... upper receiver vise block would be a help full accessory.
And there's probably something I'm missing here...

To tell you what you need for your upper, should you wish to assemble from scrap, it really depends on what configuration you're looking for. Which is why, it might be best to buy an assembled upper receiver group. Typically, all you have to add is: BCG and charging handle - Both drop in parts. And your cost savings after buying the tools, etc. is probably negligible. Unless you're really thrifty, but chances are then you'll make up for that in shipping from different suppliers. So, unless you really want the experience or have a special configuration in mind, it isn't really necessary.

I believe some suppliers won't ship to P.O. boxes - But a friends address will work.
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby MaryB on Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:45 pm

Other than head spacing it isn't that hard to assemble the upper parts. Headspace can be checked/set and any good gunsmith
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby Hmac on Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:36 am

Garret7857 wrote:But are there any sites or anything that tell me everything I need to buy? Or do they basically sell all the mechanisms as parts kits?


You can save yourself some headaches and be confident in the quality of the stuff you buy by sticking with quality resellers/manufacturers like Bravo Company USA, Rainier Arms, Noveske Rifleworks, Larue Tactical, G&R Tactical

You can buy everything you need from Bravo Company and be confident that you'll have a top quality rifle. Parts are not all created equal. Brownells and Midway are ecxellent but they sell good stuff and they sell some really crappy stuff. Not all AR parts are created equal.

The toughest part is going to be figuring out what rifle you want to build. The options are dizzying and with many pitfalls. Knowing nothing, wou are ripe for picking up some really substandard parts. Personally, I recommend getting an $1100 Colt 6920 at WalMart. Learn the platform, take some courses...you will find out more about what configuration meets your need. You can the build a second one for your dad and modify yours if necessary.
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby ARBuilder on Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:09 am

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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby ARBuilder on Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:17 am

MaryB wrote: Headspace can be checked/set and any good gunsmith


Yes and no, If it is short chambered they can fix it assuming the barrel is not chrome lined and if it is they need a carbide chamber reamer which is not something most gunsmiths own.
If it is deep chambered then the barrel extension needs to be removed then take material off the barrel face and have it timed perfectly to line back up with the gas port, it would cost more than it's worth.

I do the tape test on all the barrels I buy and if I make them then I make sure to buy a go and no-go gages.
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby Hmac on Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:36 am

MaryB wrote:Other than head spacing it isn't that hard to assemble the upper parts. Headspace can be checked/set and any good gunsmith


I've never headspaced any rifle I've built using quality barrels and quality bolt carrier groups (BCM BCG, BCM, Centurion, DD, or Noveske barrels). I would definitely headspace before shooting a Bushmaster or similar-class barrel for the first time.
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Re: Want to build an AR

Postby AFTERMATH on Sat Sep 28, 2013 12:21 pm

Hmac wrote:
MaryB wrote:Other than head spacing it isn't that hard to assemble the upper parts. Headspace can be checked/set and any good gunsmith


I've never headspaced any rifle I've built using quality barrels and quality bolt carrier groups (BCM BCG, BCM, Centurion, DD, or Noveske barrels). I would definitely headspace before shooting a Bushmaster or similar-class barrel for the first time.


While headspacing is not an issue, assuming in-spec parts. However, it's never a bad idea to have it checked or at the very least keep an eye out for signs of headspace issues. I'm sure that assembled upper groups by quality mfg's have been checked - however, if you're assembling from piece-parts there is always the possibility of stack-up of tolerances. For those unfamiliar, 'stack-up' occurs when the natural variances in production/machining/measurement add up in one direction or the other. So, while all individual parts may be with-in the specified tolerance when put together they create an out of spec assembly.
But the reality is the AR parts are generally held to such tight tolerances and the design is such that this is rarely an issue.
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