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Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby gunsmith on Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:00 am

Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary to be screened

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The British Army Film Unit cameramen who shot the liberation of Bergen-Belsen concentration camp in 1945 used to joke about the reaction of Alfred Hithcock to the horrific footage they filmed. When Hitchcock first saw the footage, the legendary British director was reportedly so traumatised that he stayed away from Pinewood Studios for a week. Hitchcock may have been the king of horror movies but he was utterly appalled by "the real thing".


Eisenhower blew a gasket when they came upon the camps and had the the German locals forcibly taken through the camps.

That's represented in 'Saving Private Ryan' and 'Shindlers' List'
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:51 am

That's represented in 'Saving Private Ryan' and 'Shindlers' List'


That was "Band of Brothers", not "Saving Pvt Ryan".
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby gunsmith on Wed Jan 08, 2014 7:23 am

Bingo,
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby BigDog58 on Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:38 am

Have any of you watched the Series on Showtime by Oliver Stone, called Untold History of The United States? I have only watched the first two episodes so far, and if what they show is fact (it truly appears so) it is quite eye opening. I never learned this point of view in school. I don't believe the government would have approved of this version being taught.
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby LarryP on Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:48 am

I don't know the series, But anything made by Oliver Stone I'd take with a grain of salt.
Most movies he makes based on history are a joke, he lies & makes up most of it, The Doors,JFK to name a few
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:26 pm

:iagree:
Oliver Stone is a liberal wack job. I wouldn't waste my time watching anything he's involved with.
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Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby xd ED on Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:37 pm

^^^^THIS^^^^
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby gunsmith on Wed Jan 08, 2014 1:39 pm

The Camera always lies.
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:09 pm

Cameras don't lie, captions and commentators do.
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby gunsmith on Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:48 pm

Rip Van Winkle wrote:Cameras don't lie, captions and commentators do.


Next time the Strib has a photo of the anti-demonstrators on the capitol steps ....notice how they fill the frame with 6 frumpy demonstrators. :)
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby Sietch on Wed Jan 08, 2014 6:48 pm

BigDog58 wrote:Have any of you watched the Series on Showtime by Oliver Stone, called Untold History of The United States? I have only watched the first two episodes so far, and if what they show is fact (it truly appears so) it is quite eye opening.

The facts discussed in that series are hard and true. Oliver Stone's opinions are not. What I dislike are the goofy conclusions he tries to draw. Still, it's certainly worth watching.
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby Ironbear on Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:37 am

Rip Van Winkle wrote:Cameras don't lie, captions and commentators do.

Cameras can lie like politicians. The Art of photography is to capture what you want, and exclude what you don't want.

Framing, lighting, forced perspective, matte painting... the camera records what it is shown; but if what it is shown, is a lie...

In any case the camera never shows all the truth.
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby blockhead on Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:54 am

Years ago, "Frontline" broadcast silent films taken by some British Army liberators of Bergen-Belsen as they entered. The camera couldn't capture the entirety of the horror, but what it did record is seared into my memory. No commentary necessary, and no way to spin it pretty.
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby BigDog58 on Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:54 am

My wife has two relatives still living (they live here in the TC) that still bare the tatoos from their time in Auscwitz and Buegenwald (forgive me if I misspelled, my Nook doesn't have spell check). I have spent many hours sitting and talking with her aunt and uncle (great aunt-uncle) and the stories are simply hard to stomach. I don't know how they can forgive those that tortured and killed their family members. They are far better humans than I. While I'm not Jewish, just listening to their stories angers me deeply. The BEASTS that did this, did NOT SUFFER ENOUGH for their sins to fellow human beings.
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Re: Alfred Hitchcock's unseen Holocaust documentary released

Postby Rip Van Winkle on Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:43 am

The old man of a friend of mine was a combat engineer in the European Theater and was in some of the camps, don't remember if he ever said which ones, after they were liberated. The two things I remember him saying were, 'it just made you want to kill Germans", and "you could tell the camps the Soviets liberated because they hanged the captured officers on the spot".
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