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Re: .45 pistol question

Postby Seismic Sam on Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:11 am

Stradawhovious wrote:I had the baby eagle in .45, and the eaa witness in .45, they are the same gun. Same size, same shape, same components, and same magazines.(all things considered) If you didn't like the Baby Eagle .45, you won't like the EAA.

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Actually, there are minor differences inside, and while they are both CZ pattern, they are NOT the same gun. The EAA is a straight up Tanfoglio from Italy, and the baby Eagle is really a renamed Jericho 941 (can't remember the factory it came out of, but it isn't Tanfoglio.) They DO take the same mags, as well as my ASAI One Pro (see gunporn page 5) Also, I think the EAA is slightly lighter - the baby Eagles are true doorstop guns which if empty, you can beat the perp to death with. (Yes, my participle is dangling......) Wanna make something of it, HammAR???

As far as the EAA's, 9mm and 38 Super are one frame size, and the 10mm and 45 are a larger frame size.

With the EAA Stocks and Elites, the frames are all the same.
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Re: .45 pistol question

Postby JoeH on Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:23 am

Seismic Sam wrote:you can beat the perp to death with. (Yes, my participle is dangling......) Wanna make something of it, HammAR???


With is a preposition, not a participle. (I'm not HammAR but I will see you on Saturday ;) )
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Re: .45 pistol question

Postby David on Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:08 pm

I know she's chosen a gun already, but I can't believe I didn't think of the Witness. I've got a Stock in 10MM, and it's an awesome gun. All metal, high-capacity, acceptable trigger, very accurate; pretty much perfect! I've been thinking of getting .38 Super and .45 ACP kits for it.
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Re: .45 pistol question

Postby Victoria on Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:28 pm

The Baby Eagles are IWI/IMI (Israeli Weapons Industry, previously I think Israeli Military Industry? something like that...the Jericho 941 originally came with interchangeable barrels and mags to switch between 9mm and .41 cal). They're built over there, imported by Magnum Research and stamped as Babys. I have one in 9mm and it is a fantastic gun to shoot. I'm keeping an eye out for a deal on a .45 now. They are all black, though, and I do like the look of stainless and/or wood grips or something a bit fancier. The EAAs have some models that are pretty, from poking around on their website, and so I'm also keeping out an eye for a deal on one of those. I've also wanted a nice 1911 for a while (have a tiny kimber but would like a full-size too).

I did get the XD, so I did sort of pick a gun, but you know as a girl I'll never stop having a shopping list. ;) The XD was just too good to pass up. The hubby has one and it's great, and it's one of the few polymer guns that doesn't hurt my hand, oh and the grip angle is really good for me, very natural, so when I saw the price and the condition of it, I had to get it.

I might have a problem. :?
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Re: .45 pistol question

Postby Veldy on Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:51 am

David Slam wrote:Having shot both of them, I'd recommend the FNP .45 over the XD. Each to his or her own, of course, but I found the trigger to be much nicer, I liked the exposed hammer, and it's got the same steel magazines. You might want to try one of those out. If you like Glocks, the 21SF is my all-around favorite gun right now.


I second the recommendation of the Glock 21SF. And buy a bunch of magazines if you are worried about the potential outcome of the election affecting your ability to continue to buy 13 round magazines [or greater].

David Slam wrote:Of course, I'm a huge fan of SIGs when it comes to metal-framed guns, but their mag capacity is less than what you've specified.


Sig has also moved to using polymer in their latest 250 series. Granted the frames are metal, but much of the exposed surface, especially the stock grips, are polymer. I see no problem with that. Either does Springfield. I don't think people should think twice about buying a gun that uses a polymer in its construction; they should just consider a gun on its merits and track record.
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Re: .45 pistol question

Postby Stradawhovious on Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:04 am

Seismic Sam wrote:Actually, there are minor differences inside, and while they are both CZ pattern, they are NOT the same gun. The EAA is a straight up Tanfoglio from Italy, and the baby Eagle is really a renamed Jericho 941 (can't remember the factory it came out of, but it isn't Tanfoglio.) They DO take the same mags, as well as my ASAI One Pro (see gunporn page 5) Also, I think the EAA is slightly lighter - the baby Eagles are true doorstop guns which if empty, you can beat the perp to death with. (Yes, my participle is dangling......) Wanna make something of it, HammAR???

As far as the EAA's, 9mm and 38 Super are one frame size, and the 10mm and 45 are a larger frame size.

With the EAA Stocks and Elites, the frames are all the same.


Thanks for throwing my phallus in the dirt SS, It's always appreciated ;) . When I had one of each (a great long while ago), the slides, grips and mags were interchangable, leading me to believe they were similar enough to be comparable.


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Re: .45 pistol question

Postby Seismic Sam on Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:23 pm

Stradawhovious wrote:
Seismic Sam wrote:Actually, there are minor differences inside, and while they are both CZ pattern, they are NOT the same gun. The EAA is a straight up Tanfoglio from Italy, and the baby Eagle is really a renamed Jericho 941 (can't remember the factory it came out of, but it isn't Tanfoglio.) They DO take the same mags, as well as my ASAI One Pro (see gunporn page 5) Also, I think the EAA is slightly lighter - the baby Eagles are true doorstop guns which if empty, you can beat the perp to death with. (Yes, my participle is dangling......) Wanna make something of it, HammAR???

As far as the EAA's, 9mm and 38 Super are one frame size, and the 10mm and 45 are a larger frame size.

With the EAA Stocks and Elites, the frames are all the same.


Thanks for throwing my phallus in the dirt SS, It's always appreciated ;) . When I had one of each (a great long while ago), the slides, grips and mags were interchangable, leading me to believe they were similar enough to be comparable.


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Re: .45 pistol question

Postby David on Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:40 pm

Veldy wrote:Sig has also moved to using polymer in their latest 250 series. Granted the frames are metal, but much of the exposed surface, especially the stock grips, are polymer. I see no problem with that. Either does Springfield. I don't think people should think twice about buying a gun that uses a polymer in its construction; they should just consider a gun on its merits and track record.


I agree that people shouldn't shy away from polymer based on function. I have a ton of polymer guns, including three Glocks, a Steyr, an FNP, USP, SIG Mosquito, etc., and they are all good shooters. There's nothing quite like the feel of a metal-framed pistol, though, which is one reason why I have something like ten SIGs. I'd buy the 250 in a hearbeat if it weren't DAO. I hate DAO with a passion. (And I know that a lot of people consider Glocks and other "safe action" type pistols to be more DA than SA, but you get the idea. Regardless of how they work, they feel like SA, and that's what I'm going for.)

Merits and function are important, but a lot of people have to "love" their guns, and a lot of personal preference goes into that. Otherwise we'd all have just one gun for each type of shooting!
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Re: .45 pistol question

Postby Seismic Sam on Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:40 am

Yeah, I'm just plain allergic to Tupperware myself. Particularly with the hot calibers I shoot, I want all the mass I can get in a gun to keep the recoil "managable". (For me, that means my hands don't bleed when I shoot it, so the recoil from my Smith 500 with hot loads is still "managable".) :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Besides, what's an extra few ounces of gun weight to a guy who weighs 250 to begin with??
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