Shooting in Las Vegas

View · by **Bearcatrp** on Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:25 pm

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow ... story.html

Its starting to get stupid out there (around the country).

View · by **Nougat** on Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:29 pm

since when is this national news.

pretty sure it wouldn't have always been.

soab if there are several more multiple death crimes that probably occur per day?

I guess I could be wrong

View · by **Randygmn** on Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:41 pm

Nougat wrote:since when is this national news.

pretty sure it wouldn't have always been.

soab if there are several more multiple death crimes that probably occur per day?

I guess I could be wrong

Could be wrong? The cold blooded assassination of not 1 but 2 police officers isn't national news? That they then killed a concealed permit holder who tried to intervene and then committed suicide makes it newsworthy. This is a major story 10 years ago, 5 years ago, yesterday, tomorrow, and 5 years from now. That's when

View · by **jshuberg** on Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:00 pm

I can't recall, was the murder of officer Jerry Haaf around 20 years ago, who was shot in the back while eating at the Pizza Shack national news? Google seems to turn up mostly local news stories, very little if any national coverage.

I tend to agree, in today's 24x7 news as entertainment climate, stories that would have been local 20 years ago are now covered at the national level. Unfortunately, the anti-gun cultists take advantage of it and try to paint the picture that gun related crime is on the rise, when in fact the opposite is true.

View · by **tman** on Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:14 pm

News said they were kicked off Bundy's Ranch.

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View · by **Randygmn** on Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:21 am

tman wrote:News said they were kicked off Bundy's Ranch.

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Yes, because he was a felon. The Ban N Grabbers are gonna have a field day. They are already saying that the gun nuts are "domestic terrorists" just like Harry Reid said. I hate that this happened, for more than 1 reason. The officers didn't have a chance. Cowards.

View · by **Nougat** on Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:43 am

look in no way do I support the actions of these creeps. but bad stuff has always happened everywhere, that we hear about it now like its something new...well I for one think its part of the propaganda agenda of getting the people to ask for ''what they all want''

domestic terrorists...pssh just a new label to lump normal folks closer in with trouble makers.

View · by **Randygmn** on Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:20 am

Nougat wrote:look in no way do I support the actions of these creeps. but bad stuff has always happened everywhere, that we hear about it now like its something new...well I for one think its part of the propaganda agenda of getting the people to ask for ''what they all want''

domestic terrorists...pssh just a new label to lump normal folks closer in with trouble makers.

Yes, I agree. The MSM is aligned deeply with this administrations agenda and has been anti gun forever. This explains why, when given a chance to spread their propaganda, they will.

View · by **xd ED** on Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:48 am

Yes. And holder not letting a crisis go to waste. A few days before the Vegas shootings he decided to get a pre 9/11 domestic task force out of mothballs. Presumably because of the Bundy ranch incident; this will only up the drum beat Numerous links can be found on the google

View · by **dcam** on Wed Jun 11, 2014 11:27 pm

'The End' In store surveillance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPeS5oBeXXI

View · by **340PD** on Thu Jun 12, 2014 2:53 am

I just read that they originally thought the woman shot the man before shooting herself but that upon reviewing the forensic evidence it was actually a bullet fired by a police rifle that killed the man.

I also read something else that I thought this was very interesting and important to think about in that type of situation. They said that someone with a permit to carry tried to intervene and confronted the male but when the permit holder did so, he had no idea that the woman was with him and the woman ended up shooting the permit holder. So often we think of a loan shooter and don't think that their could be multiple shooters working together.

View · by **Ghost** on Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:33 am

340PD wrote:I just read that they originally thought the woman shot the man before shooting herself but that upon reviewing the forensic evidence it was actually a bullet fired by a police rifle that killed the man.

So she didn't shoot him in the head in the video posted above? You can clearly see the recoil and I thought it looked like she may have hit him high on the top of his head. Obviously he's still moving so she didn't do it right but it looked to me like she tried to kill him even if she didn't finish him off.

View · by **xd ED** on Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:01 am

Ghost wrote:
340PD wrote:I just read that they originally thought the woman shot the man before shooting herself but that upon reviewing the forensic evidence it was actually a bullet fired by a police rifle that killed the man.

So she didn't shoot him in the head in the video posted above? You can clearly see the recoil and I thought it looked like she may have hit him high on the top of his head. Obviously he's still moving so she didn't do it right but it looked to me like she tried to kill him even if she didn't finish him off.

USA TODAY Today

Police, not wife, killed Las Vegas cop slayer

Las Vegas police announced Wednesday that anti-government cop killer Jerad Miller was shot dead by an officer and not by his wife, as originally thought.

The change in narrative came as police released surveillance video showing the Indiana couple's final moments Sunday morning inside a Las Vegas Walmart, where they had killed an armed shopper after executing two Las Vegas police officers while they ate lunch. Miller's 22-year-old wife, Amanda, killed herself after being wounded by police.

"This is a dramatic difference from what was discussed in a previous news conference," Assistant Sheriff Kevin McMahill told reporters.

View · by **xd ED** on Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:18 am

340PD wrote:I just read that they originally thought the woman shot the man before shooting herself but that upon reviewing the forensic evidence it was actually a bullet fired by a police rifle that killed the man.

I also read something else that I thought this was very interesting and important to think about in that type of situation. They said that someone with a permit to carry tried to intervene and confronted the male but when the permit holder did so, he had no idea that the woman was with him and the woman ended up shooting the permit holder. So often we think of a loan shooter and don't think that their could be multiple shooters working together.

The murder of Mr Wilcox (the armed civilian), demonstrates one risk of involving one's self in such a predicament. In the chaos of the moment, he could have been similarly been in peril if mistaken for one of the bad guys, by another citizen, or responding LE.

A horrific circumstance with no clear course of action; respond, not fully understanding the event?, continue to observer a deteriorating situation, with further mayhem?

View · by **tman** on Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:37 pm

xd ED wrote:
A horrific circumstance with no clear course of action; respond, not fully understanding the event?, continue to observer a deteriorating situation, with further mayhem?

GTFO is a perfectly acceptable response.

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