Doctor pulls his gun and exchanges fire with patient

View · by **brad3579** on Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:47 pm

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in the news. Also whether he loses his job for carrying on the medical campus.

The patient opened fire after entering Dr. Lee Silverman's office at Mercy Fitzgerald Hospital with the caseworker, District Attorney Jack Whelan said. Witnesses reported hearing yelling before the gunshots.

Silverman told police the patient fatally shot the caseworker before he pulled out his own gun and exchanged fire with the patient. Whelan said the psychiatrist, "from all accounts, would have acted in self-defense."

The doctor, who suffered a wound to his head, "faced a situation where his life was in jeopardy," Whelan said. He was interviewed by detectives late Thursday.

The hospital has a policy barring anyone except on-duty law enforcement officers from carrying weapons anywhere on its campus, a spokeswoman for the Mercy Health System said.
http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/docto ... e-gunfight

View · by **Mn01r6** on Thu Jul 24, 2014 11:52 pm

Better to lose your job than your life. My heart goes out to the family of the caseworker that was killed.

View · by **Ghost** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 5:21 am

Well if you can't keep the doctor safe then don't try to take away his right to self defense.

View · by **PhilaBOR** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:38 am

Sure am glad MN posts don't have force of law. Plenty of clinics and hospitals around here have magic signs but no door guards or metal detectors.

View · by **Hmac** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:48 am

PhilaBOR wrote:Sure am glad MN posts don't have force of law. Plenty of clinics and hospitals around here have magic signs but no door guards or metal detectors.

I suppose he still might lose his job, depending on the contract he signed, the employment terms, and medical staff regulations.

View · by **Mn01r6** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:58 am

Hmac wrote:
PhilaBOR wrote:Sure am glad MN posts don't have force of law. Plenty of clinics and hospitals around here have magic signs but no door guards or metal detectors.

I suppose he still might lose his job, depending on the contract he signed, the employment terms, and medical staff regulations.

He will lose his job because he violated hospital policy. I have no doubt about it. The hospital will want to protect themselves from a lawsuit from the deceased gunman's family.

View · by **farmerj** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:23 am

How could this happen? It was a gun-free zone.....

View · by **s4oak** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 11:24 am

Mn01r6 wrote:
Hmac wrote:
PhilaBOR wrote:Sure am glad MN posts don't have force of law. Plenty of clinics and hospitals around here have magic signs but no door guards or metal detectors.

I suppose he still might lose his job, depending on the contract he signed, the employment terms, and medical staff regulations.

He will lose his job because he violated hospital policy. I have no doubt about it. The hospital will want to protect themselves from a lawsuit from the deceased gunman's family.

The doc or family of dead staff member could potentially sue for not providing a safe & secure work environment, though. Probably won't go anywhere, but worth a shot.

View · by **GARAGE DWELLER** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 3:05 pm

But Yeadon Police Chief Donald Molineux said that "without a doubt, I believe the doctor saved lives."

"Without that firearm, this guy (the patient) could have went out in the hallway and just walked down the offices until he ran out of ammunition," the chief said.

View · by **hunterfreakhd** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:43 pm

Sounds like he gets to keep his job and this was a win for the second amendment.

View · by **farmerj** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 4:49 pm

hunterfreakhd wrote:Sounds like he gets to keep his job and this was a win for the second amendment.

Source......

Read the original article. I don't remember seeing that version.

View · by **brad3579** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:40 pm

farmerj wrote:
hunterfreakhd wrote:Sounds like he gets to keep his job and this was a win for the second amendment.

Source......

Read the original article. I don't remember seeing that version.

Looks like the link goes to a newer article now.

The hospital said Friday it was thankful for the "brave and difficult action" taken by Silverman and his colleagues. It said he remains a full member of the medical staff and "we look forward to Dr. Silverman's return to serving patients at our hospital."

View · by **farmerj** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:42 pm

OK, so its not just me.....

Whew....beginning to wonder if I had an exhaust leak on the truck....

View · by **brad3579** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:48 pm

farmerj wrote:OK, so its not just me.....

Whew....beginning to wonder if I had an exhaust leak on the truck....

lol

View · by **Mn01r6** on Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:54 pm

Color me impressed. I wouldn't think that a hospital they banned guns would actually stick up for someone carrying in this situation. I wonder if he had permission from the administration.