I believe Jordan and Saudi Arabia have begun to equip special forces and royal guard units with US manufactured AR pattern rifles and belt fed MGs in 6.8 SPC.
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Randygmn wrote:For me personally, I like the 300blk and its versatility, although it's not strong out past 300 yards.
cobb wrote:Ghost wrote:Easy, 6.5 Grendel
Nope, 6.8 SPC, that is what it was designed for.
Bearcatrp wrote:I think a better bullet for the 5.56 would work out and not cost a ton replacing all the M16's. For special forces and such, yes, get a better round which I think they do already.
Randygmn wrote:For me personally, I like the 300blk and its versatility, although it's not strong out past 300 yards. For a civilian, it can't be beat, IMO. It can fire supers and subs, with or without a can. It's got more on target energy than the 556 or 762x39. Wide variance of bullet weights from 110 to 220. Only needs a new barrel for conversion. Again, not suitable for engaging targets past 3 or 400 yards.
Ghost wrote:cobb wrote:Ghost wrote:Easy, 6.5 Grendel
Nope, 6.8 SPC, that is what it was designed for.
6.8 was designed for it but the Grendel still has some advantages with negligible shortcomings.
MJY65 wrote:Bearcatrp wrote:I think a better bullet for the 5.56 would work out and not cost a ton replacing all the M16's. For special forces and such, yes, get a better round which I think they do already.
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That's exactly what they should do. A slightly heavier bonded soft point makes the 5.56 a much better round. As to the "rules", they are ridiculous. Somehow, it's unfair and illegal to shoot someone with an expanding bullet, but perfectly fine to hit him with a Hellfire missile from a drone? Pure silliness.
yuppiejr wrote:7.62x39 and 6.5 Grendel AR15's share the same shortcoming in bolt & extractor construction, in order to accommodate the large case rim the bolt lugs + extractor groove are relieved significantly enough that premature failure of the lugs is not uncommon particularly if you exceed the AArms recommended 50k PSI max chamber pressure figure with regularity. You've also got significantly fewer commercial ammo options including only one major commercial ammunition manufacturer putting product out in quantity (Hornady) unless you include the unicorn that is the 4 MOA Wolf steel cased stuff that AArms manages to import once in a blue moon. Ammoseek shows about 85 in-stock ammo purchasing options (almost all Hornady at around $1 a pop) in 6.5 Grendel while 6.8 SPC and .300 blk have 350+, each including low priced plinking ammo that tickles $.050-$.60 per round.
MJY65 wrote: perfectly fine to hit him with a Hellfire missile from a drone? Pure silliness.
Bearcatrp wrote:MJY65 wrote: perfectly fine to hit him with a Hellfire missile from a drone? Pure silliness.
As long as it kills them, who cares what is used.
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