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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby yuppiejr on Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:33 pm

Nice job Bryan!
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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby mrp on Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:10 pm

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Do you also wear a kevlar-reinforced helmet and 5 point restraint in your car? I mean, providing for your safety where other's don't provide it for you? Because you are in far more danger of being killed in a car accident than being killed in a terror attack, or dying in a structure fire.


I never worry about being killed in a terror attack or dying in a structure fire. My fire extinguishers are mainly for putting out small fires before they become big fires, so you'd be right to point out that it's not primarily a safety issue. I have kevlar-reinforced underwear and a 5 point jock strap. I drive defensively, wear my seatbelt, and have reasonably safe vehicles. I also floss at least twice a week whether I need it or not.
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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby Bearcatrp on Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:33 pm

LePetomane wrote: What will be the response that Governor Dayton will give? Will he flee here like he did DC during September 11?

That weasle will run and hide in iowa!
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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby Hmac on Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:10 pm

mrp wrote:
Hmac wrote:
Do you also wear a kevlar-reinforced helmet and 5 point restraint in your car? I mean, providing for your safety where other's don't provide it for you? Because you are in far more danger of being killed in a car accident than being killed in a terror attack, or dying in a structure fire.


I never worry about being killed in a terror attack or dying in a structure fire. My fire extinguishers are mainly for putting out small fires before they become big fires, so you'd be right to point out that it's not primarily a safety issue. I have kevlar-reinforced underwear and a 5 point jock strap. I drive defensively, wear my seatbelt, and have reasonably safe vehicles. I also floss at least twice a week whether I need it or not.


There ya go! It's all about managing one's day-to-day risk and protecting the body parts that mean the most to us.
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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby MaryB on Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:27 pm

I bet a lot of people ignore the no firearm sign at MOA now. Personally I would rather go to the dentist to have a tooth cut out than go to MOA
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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby Ghost on Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:33 pm

MaryB wrote:I bet a lot of people ignore the no firearm sign at MOA now. Personally I would rather go to the dentist to have a tooth cut out than go to MOA

What sign? ;)

I really don't understand everybody's dislike for that place. It's the only place that has all the stores my wife shops at in one location and they have good food also. I refuse to go there with out of towners if I have the option because I don't go there to explore, get in get out type of situation.

But I work with a guy that despises the place although he's also very proud to admit he's never been there even once.
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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby bstrawse on Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:04 pm

Here's the story: http://www.startribune.com/local/yourvo ... 32801.html

Amid concerns about the Mall of America being targeted for a terrorist attack, a top member of the Minnesota House of Representatives was strongly critical today of signs posted at the Mall of the America which states the mall "bans guns."
Representative Tony Cornish (R-Vernon Center), chair of the House Public Safety and Crime Prevention Policy and Finance Committee, said the signs create a "killing zone" at the Mall of America. Cornish called the signs at the Mall of America "completely worthless" adding, "they have no standing" to prevent individuals with a permit to carry a handgun in public from doing so at the Mall of America.


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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby Snakeman721 on Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:59 am

Ghost wrote:
MaryB wrote:I bet a lot of people ignore the no firearm sign at MOA now. Personally I would rather go to the dentist to have a tooth cut out than go to MOA

What sign? ;)

I really don't understand everybody's dislike for that place. It's the only place that has all the stores my wife shops at in one location and they have good food also. I refuse to go there with out of towners if I have the option because I don't go there to explore, get in get out type of situation.

But I work with a guy that despises the place although he's also very proud to admit he's never been there even once.


Been there a few times in the past. One reason I don't go there more often is the cost of goods sold there. Everything is more expensive than comparable stores elsewhere in the cities and even at the SAME chain stores located elsewhere. But mainly, because there are no sporting goods store there.....although it's kinda funny that in the first year they were open, there WAS a sporting goods store up on the third level that DID sell firearms! That practice was soon halted after about a year. :)
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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby John S. on Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:58 am

bstrawse wrote:The MN Gun Owners PAC was asked for comments for an upcoming Star Tribune story - here's what we told them:

"The Mall of America has long had a policy to prohibit lawful carry of firearms by Minnesotans, including posting signs throughout the mall and removing permit holders seen to be carrying firearms.

Minnesota law, however, prohibits a landlord from interfering with the carrying of firearms under MN statute 624.714 by tenants or their guests.

The Mall of America is well aware that as landlords they cannot ban lawful carry. Carrying at the Mall of America does not violate the law, only the mall's wishes.

The current threat environment makes it unconscionable to seek to prohibit self-defense by the mall's customers."

- Bryan Strawser, Executive Director, Minnesota Gun Owners Political Action Committee


Gotta love THAT! ;) But..............I'm pretty sure I wouldn't open carry there, lol, unless you have a lot of time on your hands, to, say, answer some questions! :P
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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby John S. on Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:03 am

Hmac wrote:
mrp wrote:
Hmac wrote:
Do you also wear a kevlar-reinforced helmet and 5 point restraint in your car? I mean, providing for your safety where other's don't provide it for you? Because you are in far more danger of being killed in a car accident than being killed in a terror attack, or dying in a structure fire.


I never worry about being killed in a terror attack or dying in a structure fire. My fire extinguishers are mainly for putting out small fires before they become big fires, so you'd be right to point out that it's not primarily a safety issue. I have kevlar-reinforced underwear and a 5 point jock strap. I drive defensively, wear my seatbelt, and have reasonably safe vehicles. I also floss at least twice a week whether I need it or not.


There ya go! It's all about managing one's day-to-day risk and protecting the body parts that mean the most to us.


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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby farmerj on Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:47 am

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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby MJY65 on Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:57 am

Love some of the article comments about the signs being there to keep everyone safe. What the heck kind of fantasy kindergarten rule world do those people live in?
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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby Ghost on Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:23 am

MJY65 wrote:Love some of the article comments about the signs being there to keep everyone safe. What the heck kind of fantasy kindergarten rule world do those people live in?

Unfortunately, a very real one

Be nice if people would post a link to some of the "facts" that they throw out in those comments.
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Re: shtf? MOA attack?

Postby yuppiejr on Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:50 am

MJY65 wrote:Love some of the article comments about the signs being there to keep everyone safe. What the heck kind of fantasy kindergarten rule world do those people live in?


If the sign were made of 3/4" AR500 plate steel it might keep someone safe.
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