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Postby minnesotatv on Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:50 am

For Home Security, Good Judgment Must Accompany a Gun by the Bedside - Home Defense - Thunder Ranch

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Re: For Home Security, Good Judgment Must...

Postby Lumpy on Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:45 am

Clint Smith makes an excellent point: are you really trying to stay safe, or are you trying to be badass? Clearly Smith prefers safety.

If I could afford it, as part of my home security I would have emergency lights (a good idea anyway) linked to a master "On" switch in my bedroom, so I could hit light up the house. Stumbling through the dark in the A.M. with a gun is not my idea of a good time.
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Postby goett047 on Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:28 am

Lumpy wrote:Clint Smith makes an excellent point: are you really trying to stay safe, or are you trying to be badass? Clearly Smith prefers safety.

If I could afford it, as part of my home security I would have emergency lights (a good idea anyway) linked to a master "On" switch in my bedroom, so I could hit light up the house. Stumbling through the dark in the A.M. with a gun is not my idea of a good time.


I have a number of fixtures capable of being controlled remotely by my wife's and my phone. Not as fast a switch, but a heck of a lot more affordable. In the future I might add a motion sensor by the front and patio doors to turn them on in the middle of the night.
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Postby 2in2out on Thu Mar 12, 2015 6:45 pm

I like Clint. He's an independent thinker. While I'm sure he's not always right, I haven't heard him say anything I've ever disagreed with.
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Postby Tronster on Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:51 pm

Interesting vid, I'd never heard of him but I'll have to watch more of his stuff.

As far as stumbling through a dark house trying to fumble for a light switch in each room, yea I can see how that will get you killed. Better idea would be a flood lamp in the corner of each room wired to a master switch so the whole house is illuminated at once. That alone might be enough to spook an intruder to leave.
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Postby MaryB on Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:42 pm

I walk my house in the dark all the time. But I don't have kids moving stuff around so I know where everything is. I can see lights giving an intruder the advantage unless you are close enough that he is still blinded when they come on.
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Postby smurfman on Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:04 am

The problem with room lights is one usually needs to enter the room to some degree to reach the switch. This is no different than using a stairway as you are limited in movement- hence the nickname of "fatal funnel".

I do like the idea of a master switch to switch on all lights, a friend has that option for the outside lights from their master bedroom. He installed it with new construction and his uncle did the wiring so it wasn't all that bad for him. I am not an electrician by any means so cannot say how difficult or easy such a thing would be with an existing home. I suspect it would be a bit more expensive if for other reason the cost of wire and time stringing it up if tearing down Sheetrock was not required.

The phone activated lights are probably a better option in the finished home. I have the remote switches on several lights at our cabin which I see could be used in the same manner. I can turn on the living room lights from the upstairs bedroom but I can't turn on the kitchen lights from directly above. I think the floor is too thick for the activating trigger to penetrate. At least that remote works from the living room once down there.

Finding the remote in the dark may be a bit problematic, it is not where it should be far too often. Keeping tabs on them can be difficult and I only wish they would glow in the dark.
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Re: For Home Security, Good Judgment Must...

Postby xd ED on Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:53 am

I'm guessing one could address remote light switches with the use of wireless switches, and relays. Possibly not a complete DIY project for everyone, but less involved than hard wiring.



http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=+Wireless+Remote+Switch&go=Submit&qs=ds&form=QBIR

But there are many 'Plug-and-Play' options out there...
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I recall reading of this topic (clearing one's home of an intruder) back when Jeff Cooper was actively training people. In the scenarios they ran at Gunsite the good guy almost invariably fell prey to the intruder, as the intruder usually knew of the resident's location as soon as they started moving around.

Having a family plan to hunker down in the best defendable spot seem to be the best play for the the residents.
Personally, for me it will either be along side my bed (concealment) or in my bathtub, or closet. However I am the lone resident of my home so it's a less complex problem to deal with.
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Postby Tronster on Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:56 am

The problem comes as he mentioned is when you have children in a different part or level of the house that you need to secure. That would force you to move through the house. Perhaps wiring lights just for that section would be enough.
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Postby Ironbear on Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:21 am

Stick anywhere motion lights (like these at Home Depot)
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Mr-Beams-Outdoor-Wireless-Motion-Sensing-LED-Stick-Anywhere-Light-6-Pack-MB726/205403779#specifications
seem like they would be a good solution. Carefully placed, they would light up anyone moving around while leaving the homeowner hidden in darkness. For example, one could mount them on the step risers, and they would light up anyone coming up the stairs while not triggering on anyone at the top.

I could think of a couple of spots where they would be just useful in general, around my house, and could be a real boon in a power outage.
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Re: For Home Security, Good Judgment Must...

Postby 20mm on Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:40 am

xd ED wrote:I'm guessing one could address remote light switches with the use of wireless switches, and relays. Possibly not a complete DIY project for everyone, but less involved than hard wiring.



http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=+Wireless+Remote+Switch&go=Submit&qs=ds&form=QBIR

But there are many 'Plug-and-Play' options out there...
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Thanks for posting the biggest, and most over priced piece of junk available on the market.

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Re: For Home Security, Good Judgment Must...

Postby xd ED on Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:42 am

20mm wrote:
xd ED wrote:I'm guessing one could address remote light switches with the use of wireless switches, and relays. Possibly not a complete DIY project for everyone, but less involved than hard wiring.



http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=+Wireless+Remote+Switch&go=Submit&qs=ds&form=QBIR

But there are many 'Plug-and-Play' options out there...
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Thanks for posting the biggest, and most over priced piece of junk available on the market.

Buy it and report back in a month with a review.


I posted a photo of one of the many possibilities out there.
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Postby 20mm on Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:45 am

Apparently things called "Dogs" have gone out of fashion or have devolved from:

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Re: For Home Security, Good Judgment Must...

Postby 20mm on Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:46 am

xd ED wrote:I posted a photo of one of the many possibilities out there.
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Yeah and this is possibly the best .45 on the market:

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Re: For Home Security, Good Judgment Must...

Postby xd ED on Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:50 am

20mm wrote:
xd ED wrote:I posted a photo of one of the many possibilities out there.
But thank you for logging in today.


Yeah and this is possibly the best .45 on the market:

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It quite possibly is, if that's what one can afford. Owning an inexpensive gun can solve many more problems than the money being saved for an expensive piece.
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