off topic send money to the good folks at "Memories Pizza"

[brad3579]

God works in mysterious ways.I left work today and went to a gas station and found a $100.00 bill on the floor. I know what God is telling me to do with it.Global warming/climate change?Nope.God is pissed.

Yes pass it on to GOCRA or MNGOPAC
http://www.gocra.org/
http://www.mngopac.org/

[yuppiejr]

yuppiejr, when you talk to these folks, how do you know they are gay? Or do you assume they are based on mannerisms, speech patterns, dress, etc.. It's unfortunate that you are only able to collectivize people as gay or straight, black or white or hispanic, etc.. and not see them as individuals.

Because the folks in question have identified themselves as gay, and or I have met their partner/spouse...

Way to ask and then answer your own question on my behalf (incorrectly of course) champ, you are a terrible debater.


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[LePetomane]

I just sent them some dough. Memories Pizza has the right to do business with whomever they please and should not have to put up with the bullies of the GLBT community and their followers.

The GLBT activists are no different from Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Just as Sharpton and Jackson claim to speak for all blacks they claim to represent the gay community. Liberal activists, be they GLBT bullies, race agitators or militant feminists see discrimination wherever they look. If it isn't there then they use their imagination to find something that they can portray as discrimination.

Yuppiejr, I'm not trying to debate you and convince you of anything. I just think you are dead wrong.

xd Ed, Thanks for the video. The same leftists who are pitching a fit over Memories Pizza would not think of doing the same to one of these muslim bakeries in Dearborn, Michiganistan.

I've noticed that a lot of people here do not understand liberals. They fall for the propaganda because it is disguised with good intentions and accuses their political opponents of discrimination. No one wants to be browbeaten about discrimination so even conservative thinking people vote for the democrats. It is unfortunate that the so called conservatives have let the DFL'ers define them. All they do is apologize and make excuses for their political beliefs instead of standing up to the DFL machine. Shame on them. Liberals are liberals first. Their candidates for office run as gays, African Americans, women, muslims, etc. instead of democrats.

William J. LePetomane

[Rmfcasey]

Isn't it strange that the people who pushed for tolerance and diversity now want to absolutely destroy anyone that doesn't embrace their beliefs and policies.The civil rights abuses in the south were mainly put in place by government . The public accommodation rules in the civil rights act were a infringement of the bill of rights. Personally I think people should have the right to trade or not trade with anyone they want to .
The gay rights crowd is now shopping around to find people who disagree with them to punish and destroy their lives and businesses. remember what happened to the Mozilla guy who simply donated to protect traditional marriage in California? He was fired and his career destroyed.

[LePetomane]

Rmfcasey, these aren't the same people or ideology.

Blacks in the south got a raw deal. The modern day democrats want to claim ownership of the civil rights movement. Not so. The Jim Crow laws and other statutes promoting segregation were all written by democrats in the deep south. The KKK was started by democrats. The majority of the segregationist leaders in the south were democrats, Bull Connor, George Wallace among others. These advocates for gay rights, racial equality and feminism want to identify themselves with the civil rights movement but they can't.

Check out the MOA eleven. They are a bunch of Black Lives Matters "useful idiots" who were given bad legal advice, demonstrated at the Mall of America without a permit and are facing charges of criminal trespassing.


Liberals only tolerate what they are in agreement with. And they do not tolerate diversity of opinion. There is no one more narrow minded than a broad minded liberal.

Revisionist historians want you to believe that the oppression of blacks in the south was part of a conservative political agenda. Simply not true.

[xd ED]

Isn't it strange that the people who pushed for tolerance and diversity now want to absolutely destroy anyone that doesn't embrace their beliefs and policies.The civil rights abuses in the south were mainly put in place by government . The public accommodation rules in the civil rights act were a infringement of the bill of rights. Personally I think people should have the right to trade or not trade with anyone they want to .
The gay rights crowd is now shopping around to find people who disagree with them to punish and destroy their lives and businesses. remember what happened to the Mozilla guy who simply donated to protect traditional marriage in California? He was fired and his career destroyed.

...The civil rights abuses in the south were mainly put in place by government ...

Some who clamor for the principle of public accomadation laws to control private enterprise conveniently forget who's bus it was on which Rosa Parks rode.

It's perhaps ironic, however intentional, that those bigots attempting to destroy the lives of the Indiana pizza shop family were attempting to do so through the marketplace (however poorly that worked out for the perpetrators.)

Regarding the general hypocrisy of some of the loudest voices in the news:

...It is really funny to hear prolific emailer and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton denounce Indiana’s religious freedom law, a law that is eerily similar to the one her cigar aficionado husband, President Bill Clinton, fully supported and signed into law back in 1993...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/04/the-hillary-hypocrisy-over-religious-freedom/

[cobb]

Liberals only tolerate what they are in agreement with. And they do not tolerate diversity of opinion. There is no one more narrow minded than a broad minded liberal.

Revisionist historians want you to believe that the oppression of blacks in the south was part of a conservative political agenda. Simply not true.

Yes, thank you.

I just don't understand how people can confuse and misrepresent what the issue is. The Memories Pizza issue was created by the liberal media that wanted a conflict to report to make headlines, that they achieved. If what was said is true, the Memories Pizza employee that was interviewed said they would serve a gay person, but would not cater a gay activity because to cater the activity would involve them in an activity they goes against their religious beliefs. Two separate issues, but the liberals want to distort and attack those that have religious beliefs.

[Ghost]

I'll just leave this right here and suggest people Google "Memories Pizza" and read all the headlines.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/04/02/was-memories-pizza-a-victim-of-irrespons

The owners of Memories Pizza, the O'Connor family, did not willingly seek out controversy, deny service to a gay person or couple, or even go out on a limb to suggest that they would. No, they merely responded to a question from Alyssa Marino, a local reporter for ABC 57 News who had come to their shop in search of a story.

And they did give her a story—but not the one she reported. Her initial headline was "RFRA: First Michiana business to publicly deny same-sex service" http://www.abc57.com/story/28681598/rfra-first-business-to-publicly-deny-same-sex-service(Michiana is the region in Indiana where Memories Pizza is located). That headline implies two things that are false. The O'Connors had no intention of becoming the first Michiana business to do anything discriminatory with respect to gay people; they had merely answered a hypothetical question about what would happen if a gay couple asked them to cater a wedding. And the O'Connors had every intention of providing regular service to gay people—just not their weddings.

Oh and keep in mind they have never catered a wedding.

[yuppiejr]

I think the best quote I heard from someone (who happens to be gay) on this topic was "what gay person would be caught dead serving pizza at their wedding, and why would they bother doing business with someone who clearly and publicly denounces their lifestyle?" He agreed that a small, vocal number of folks in the GLBT community seem to go out of their way to stir up controversy and didn't agree, at all, with the attacks on the business or the family running it. Which sounds a lot like "letting the free market sort it out" to me, though I disagree on the dismissal of the idea of serving (good) pizza at weddings given how bad some hotel catering can be.

But clearly "the liberals" and "teh gheys" enabled by the liberal media are out to get you... better spin up the tin foil hat factory boys!

Do the actions of a few overzealous members of the open carry movement spitting on a woman in a wheelchair, "doxing" people who disagree with them or referring to women who disagree with them as "thugs with jugs" represent the views of all gun owners? No more than the actions of a few overzealous members of the GLBT community intimidating or threatening the owners of the pizza parlor.

Back to quotes on this issue, I felt like this was really on point:

"What you're getting is a [gay rights] movement that is dominated by a very small, very hardcore group of people, with very fringe views, who can be very aggressive. And we've seen this play out time and time again...in which you're not just getting arguments about policy, you're getting rank, pure intimidation."





... of course the original quote above replaced [gay rights] with "gun" and was captured in an interview with Chris Hayes of MSNBC.

True story.

[xd ED]

I think the best quote I heard from someone (who happens to be gay) on this topic was "what gay person would be caught dead serving pizza at their wedding, and why would they bother doing business with someone who clearly and publicly denounces their lifestyle?" He agreed that a small, vocal number of folks in the GLBT community seem to go out of their way to stir up controversy and didn't agree, at all, with the attacks on the business or the family running it. Which sounds a lot like "letting the free market sort it out" to me, though I disagree on the dismissal of the idea of serving (good) pizza at weddings given how bad some hotel catering can be.

But clearly "the liberals" and "teh gheys" enabled by the liberal media are out to get you... better spin up the tin foil hat factory boys!

Do the actions of a few overzealous members of the open carry movement spitting on a woman in a wheelchair, "doxing" people who disagree with them or referring to women who disagree with them as "thugs with jugs" represent the views of all gun owners? No more than the actions of a few overzealous members of the GLBT community intimidating or threatening the owners of the pizza parlor.

Back to quotes on this issue, I felt like this was really on point:

"What you're getting is a [gay rights] movement that is dominated by a very small, very hardcore group of people, with very fringe views, who can be very aggressive. And we've seen this play out time and time again...in which you're not just getting arguments about policy, you're getting rank, pure intimidation."





... of course the original quote above replaced [gay rights] with "gun" and was captured in an interview with Chris Hayes of MSNBC.

True story.

But clearly "the liberals" and "teh gheys" enabled by the liberal media are out to get you

It's rather naive to expect a different reaction when radicals in the media conspire to create an incident as opposed to reporting one.

Had a dishonest, agenda driven reporter not created this incident, there'd be nothing for them to report, or us to discuss.

Previous to the reporters' involvement, there was no there, there.

[BigBlue]

I highly doubt anybody assumes all gay people are behind the 'outrage' against this business. It's obviously a group of very vocal activists. Problem is, they have the (very liberally biased) media fronting them and bringing issues like these to the mainstream. If media were unbiased and fair this story would never have happened. The fussy, rabble-rousing activists would remain on the fringes where they belong.

But that's not how it works these days. Media is quick to jump on any liberal cause and run with it. Truth be damned. So good people are left to battle the dimwits to keep things sane.

BB

[yuppiejr]

It's rather naive to expect a different reaction when radicals in the media conspire to create an incident as opposed to reporting one.

Had a dishonest, agenda driven reporter not created this incident, there'd be nothing for them to report, or us to discuss.

Previous to the reporters' involvement, there was no there, there.

This is a gross oversimplification... the media (MSNBC, Mother Jones, Fox News, Alex Jones, etc..) only has power when individuals LET them have power to shape their opinions and take action as a result. Sadly, there is a LARGE portion of the population that is more interested in belonging than truth, and the idea that it's exclusively a "liberal" issue itself exemplifies the former.

[connsolo]

A fool and his money are soon parted.

[LePetomane]

A fool and his money are soon parted.

Connsolo, you are free to spend your money as you like but don't criticize those who support Memories Pizza. It's their money (not the government's) and they are free to spend it as they like.

[xd ED]

It's rather naive to expect a different reaction when radicals in the media conspire to create an incident as opposed to reporting one.

Had a dishonest, agenda driven reporter not created this incident, there'd be nothing for them to report, or us to discuss.

Previous to the reporters' involvement, there was no there, there.

This is a gross oversimplification... the media (MSNBC, Mother Jones, Fox News, Alex Jones, etc..) only has power when individuals LET them have power to shape their opinions and take action as a result. Sadly, there is a LARGE portion of the population that is more interested in belonging than truth, and the idea that it's exclusively a "liberal" issue itself exemplifies the former.

To suggest the media has only consented influence is to believe advertising has but the same abilities.
As to the liberal vs conservative aspect of this incident, or the general topic, I'd like to be reminded of a case where a similar, conservative driven report was taken by virtually every media outlet and given top billing. Never mind the fraudulent nature of the reporters work being unquestioned.