Lumpy wrote:Since MN bans individuals owning full-autos, I take it that there's a narrow loophole for dealers/manufacturers?
Squib Joe wrote:C&R machine guns AKA "The really expensive ones" can be owned without a manufacturing license in Minnesota
BATFE wrote:7.5.1 Manufacture of machineguns for sale to government agencies or as “sales samples”.
Notwithstanding the prohibition in Section 922(o), qualified manufacturers may manufacture machineguns on or after May 19, 1986 for sale to Federal and State agencies or to FFLs/SOTs as “sales samples” for demonstration to prospective governmental customers. The weapons may be manufactured and stockpiled in contemplation of future sales, but their registration and subsequent transfer are conditioned upon and restricted to sales only to government agencies or as sales samples. See Chapter 9 for a discussion of the required documentation supporting these sales. See also Section 7.6.1 on the manufacture of machineguns by contractors of FFLs/SOTs.
MN 609.67 Subd. 3(3) wrote:persons possessing machine guns or short-barreled shotguns which, although designed as weapons, have been determined by the superintendent of the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension or the superintendent's delegate by reason of the date of manufacture, value, design or other characteristics to be primarily collector's items, relics, museum pieces or objects of curiosity, ornaments or keepsakes, and are not likely to be used as weapons;
MN 7500.5100 Subp. 2 wrote:Approved machine gun or short-barrelled shotgun. "Approved machine gun or short-barrelled shotgun" means a machine gun or short-barrelled shotgun that, although designed as a weapon, has been determined by the superintendent as not likely to be used as a weapon and that has been determined by the superintendent to appear on the National Firearms Act Curios and Relics List, as provided by United States Code, title 18, chapter 44, and as issued by the Department of the Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (Washington, D.C.).
MN 609.67 Subd. 1(d) wrote:"Trigger activator" means a removable manual or power driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that, when attached to a firearm, the rate at which the trigger may be pulled increases and the rate of fire of the firearm increases to that of a machine gun.
Holland&Holland wrote:Squib Joe wrote:C&R machine guns AKA "The really expensive ones" can be owned without a manufacturing license in Minnesota
Joe, out of curiosity, and if you do not want to answer feel free to ignore. I have always assumed that the full autos for rent at Bill's all fall under the C&R designation. Is this correct? I never looked into the C&R list as I know my pocket book is not in that league. Or do you guys get to use one of the other permitted uses listed?
Deputyhiro wrote:The talk of having law enforcement show up over the perceived sound of automatic gunfire has me a little bit confused. I own a slide fire for one of my ARs. On a few occasions I have let 'er rip out in my back yard with the guys. I have a pretty nifty shooting range, so weekend shoots aren't out of the ordinary. A few friends have questioned whether the sound of a 30rnd mag dump would trigger a visit from a deputy. I thought, no way. How is that probable cause for a crime? Once they see the slide fire, is that the end of it? How far could that go? All because of a perceived noise by a "concerned neighbor. Full disclosure: Police have never showed up for this, and all a slide fire is good for is wasting ammo.
Deputyhiro wrote:A few friends have questioned whether the sound of a 30rnd mag dump would trigger a visit from a deputy. I thought, no way. How is that probable cause for a crime? Once they see the slide fire, is that the end of it? How far could that go? All because of a perceived noise by a "concerned neighbor. Full disclosure: Police have never showed up for this, and all a slide fire is good for is wasting ammo.
jshuberg wrote:Quite often the intent of the law and the application of the law can be quite different. Again, only the courts can definitively answer the question as to whether they're legal or not.
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The federal machine gun charge a Northfield man is facing came after he sold a fully-automatic Uzi to a confidential informant, according to a search warrant filed in Rice County.
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