Question for long gun sales.

[rugershooter6823]

Im guessing this topic has been discussed, how ever i can't find it. As a MNresident can a sell a long gun to a WI resident.

[george]

Yes if it's legal for the Wi. res. to purchase it. We need to check Wi. Laws. Without checking, I believe it's ok.
My bad, I was thinking as a FFL and not an individual. Put it threw a FFL in Wi.

[cobb]

As a MNresident can a sell a long gun to a WI resident.

Define the long gun.

[rugershooter6823]

Ruger 6mm hunting rifle

[870TC]

No, according to the handout from ATF I picked up at a MWCA show. Says" as a non-licensed resident you cannot acquire or dispose of firearms to a non-licensed resident of another state." I have heard people argue that the handout references whats legal at gunshows and if a person was not at a gunshow then....hmmm?. Guess I would say no, not worth taking the chance.

[Scratch]

You can "sell" it to someone out of state, but it needs to go through a Wisconsin dealer. You as a MN resident can't have a WI resident just come over to your house or whatever, pay for it and bring it home. The gun can't cross state lines without going through a dealer, and having the buyer complete a 4473.


I just so happen to be a dealer in Hudson, and will do the transfer for 20.00 though...

You and the buyer, could deliver the gun to a Wisconsin dealer, either by driving it over, or by ups, FedEx, whatever... the dealer will record the info from your DL as "where the gun came from".
Then the buyer (WI resident) would fill out the 4473 and complete the background check. Once approved, the gun would go to the buyer.

This is the same if you were selling a handgun by the way.

Feel free to pm me if you have questions.

[Squib Joe]

Um what? No.

You can SELL a firearm to somebody that lives in another state but to TRANSFER the firearm you will need to run it through a FFL dealer in the state where the buyer resides (unless the buyer is a licensed dealer or collector).

No exceptions. This applies to pistols, revolvers, shotguns and rifles of all types and configurations.

[rugershooter6823]

Thank you!

[grimbeaver]

This is the thing that keeps me from acquiring a pistol that an in-law does not want anymore and tried to sell to me. Given the value of the pistol and it's value to me (not a lot) by the time I paid to ship it to a FFL and then have a transfer done it's not worth it to me anymore. If I could at least cut out the shipping I would consider it, but he never comes to my neck of the woods and I can not transport it across state lines back to here.

[Squib Joe]

Nothing prevents your in-law from lending you the firearm and you dropping it off at the FFL dealer when you're done - and then getting it transferred back to yourself. The FFL will want a copy of your relative's state ID

[george]

I talked with my atf inspector and even a Minnesota FFL can do a transfer on that long gun to a resident of Wisconsin and Mark line 30 C as private party transfer so I'm supposed to be getting an email confirming that.

[george]

I also check my state rules and its an old book but Wisconsin residents are restricted to contagious states when purchasing long guns rifles or shotguns yet.

[Ghost]

Curious to know how anybody would know where the gun came from when private party transferred. Not saying to do it but just how would anybody know?

[andrewP]

restricted to contagious states

Hm, is there a specific disease required, or do these states just have to be capable of transferring some sort of illness?

Curious to know how anybody would know where the gun came from when private party transferred. Not saying to do it but just how would anybody know?

Know? Probably no one would. Infer from other evidence? Possibly depending on other circumstances. Say the dealer where the gun was originally purchased went out of business and the ATF collected their books as a result. The original purchaser would then be known, and if the gun was later found to have been transferred across state lines without there being a record of it going through an FFL after that, then obviously somebody broke the rules somewhere along the way. It would probably be very difficult to verify exactly who did so and when they did it, and thus equally difficult to prosecute, but for the nominal fee that most FFLs charge to do a transfer, why not do it the right way?

[george]

Haha I didn't read it I just used the talk system but contagious equals contiguous. It is Wisconsin who knows people tend to catch something called the Packers.