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Postby Ghost on Tue Sep 29, 2015 5:55 pm

george wrote:It is Wisconsin who knows people tend to catch something called the Packers.

Apparently the Packers can catch. ;)
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Re: Question for long gun sales.

Postby ex-LT on Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:49 am

andrewP wrote:Know? Probably no one would. Infer from other evidence? Possibly depending on other circumstances. Say the dealer where the gun was originally purchased went out of business and the ATF collected their books as a result. The original purchaser would then be known, and if the gun was later found to have been transferred across state lines without there being a record of it going through an FFL after that, then obviously somebody broke the rules somewhere along the way. It would probably be very difficult to verify exactly who did so and when they did it, and thus equally difficult to prosecute, but for the nominal fee that most FFLs charge to do a transfer, why not do it the right way?

No, it's not obvious that somebody broke the rules somewhere along the way. Case in point, while I was stationed in San Diego as a member of Uncle Sam's Canoe Club, I purchased a Taurus revolver. I kept it when I moved back to Minnesota. To my knowledge, as long as I sell it to a Minnesota resident, there is no requirement that I go through an FFL.
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Re: Question for long gun sales.

Postby Holland&Holland on Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:19 pm

ex-LT wrote:
andrewP wrote:Know? Probably no one would. Infer from other evidence? Possibly depending on other circumstances. Say the dealer where the gun was originally purchased went out of business and the ATF collected their books as a result. The original purchaser would then be known, and if the gun was later found to have been transferred across state lines without there being a record of it going through an FFL after that, then obviously somebody broke the rules somewhere along the way. It would probably be very difficult to verify exactly who did so and when they did it, and thus equally difficult to prosecute, but for the nominal fee that most FFLs charge to do a transfer, why not do it the right way?

No, it's not obvious that somebody broke the rules somewhere along the way. Case in point, while I was stationed in San Diego as a member of Uncle Sam's Canoe Club, I purchased a Taurus revolver. I kept it when I moved back to Minnesota. To my knowledge, as long as I sell it to a Minnesota resident, there is no requirement that I go through an FFL.


Was it not lost when the canoe tipped over that one time?
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Re: Question for long gun sales.

Postby andrewP on Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:10 am

ex-LT wrote:No, it's not obvious that somebody broke the rules somewhere along the way. Case in point, while I was stationed in San Diego as a member of Uncle Sam's Canoe Club, I purchased a Taurus revolver. I kept it when I moved back to Minnesota. To my knowledge, as long as I sell it to a Minnesota resident, there is no requirement that I go through an FFL.


Good point; it would be even harder to trace/enforce than I proposed, because you've clearly demonstrated a legit reason why it could happen. That still doesn't mean it shouldn't be done the right way in the OP's scenario.
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