Smith & Wesson are Clowns

[UnaStamus]

Any company can- and generally will- void the warranty if aftermarket work is done on the gun. Glock is very open about voiding warranties on custom guns, as well as any gun that has fired reloaded/handloaded ammo. Thing is- when we do stuff like that to our pistols, we knew full well that we are invalidating the warranty. I knew it when I sent my G17 to Robar.

[PHATSPEED7x]

I've bounced back and forth between Glock and Smith and Wesson. After what I saw this week I'm glad I made the switch back to Glock. Never had an issue with Smith and Wesson and I wouldn't feel any less protected by one. It's just personal preference.

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[Seismic Sam]

I can see both sides, and while any company shouldn't be dickheads to their loyal customers, there is the law to consider. Especially when you have the Hildabeest herself vowing to try and strip gun makers of immunity that any company can claim (car makers, drug manufaturers, etc.) in order to shut down gun production.

I have a personal feeling that Minnesota in the very least, and possibly many other states just keep cranking out lawyers like giant leeches on a production line, with no regard to the number of lawyers that the society actually needs. With the dental school at the U of M (only school in the 5 state region for dentists) built a new dental school 40 years ago and started cranking out 125 dentists (my wife included) a year, after 4 or 5 years it became evident that there were now more dentists than tooth decay, and it was getting so that the average salary started to go down because the market was saturated. As such the U of M throttled back the number of students accepted into the program.

This however, is NOT the case with lawyers, and Hamline and William Mitchell continue to pump out as many lawyers as they can, and that brings about a problem. The market is WAAAYY oversaturated, so where is the money for all those BMW's or Mercedes, and private school for the kids, and designer clothes from the wife going to come from?? Well, it going to come from YOU and ME and the rest of the general public, because unlike a dentist, who can't somehow cause more tooth decay or crooked teeth to happen, lawyers CAN make up any damn excuse they want to in order to start a lawsuit and get some money out of it. This is the situation with anybody (like S&W) who make products were great bodily injury or death is possible under the most ridiculous circumstances, and it extends all the way back to hot McDonald's coffee and people who make floor wax that is SO good that somebody could slip and fall on it.

And unfortunately, because it take a lawyer to understand the legal system and the way laws work and the governmental process of making and passing laws, a lot of these potential dummy chuckers wind up running for political offices at the state and federal level, so there's no chance in hell of ever getting any laws passed to try and solve this situation.

[Rodentman]

When I was researching the purchase of a 460 mag I found a lawyer suing S&W for a man who blew his thumb off not knowing how to hold the pistol properly.

User error is not the mfr fault. I wrote to these lawyers and told them so. I didn't hear from them, thankfully.

[gearguy10]

What was the context of the parts you were selling and what did they specifically say to you? Was the message directly from Glock or was it from a Glock rep?

It was 10+ years ago. I don't remember. I posted a few auctions for some after market parts I had bought for I gun I sold off and I immediately got emails from someone claiming to be a "legal rep" from Glock who looks after their interest on websites like Ebay. They said they'd have Ebay pull my auctions and close my account if I didn't make certain changes to the wording of my auctions. They basically didn't want it to look in any way whatsoever that the parts were made or authorized by Glock. I made a couple changes and told them I wasn't violating any rules that I knew of so they could pound sand. The auctions didn't get pulled and shortly after Ebay quit letting people post anything gun related.