PD chief "purchase permits take more than 5 business days"

[mnglocker]

Wow, who the hell pulled you over as a kid and what the hell for?

[Widge]

I think you're making the mistake of assuming you were debating with a logical and bright person. On average your local LEO isn't going to be the brightest bulb on the tree. The barrier to entry is fairly low and, again on average, you're not getting the smartest people to debate the reality or finer points of law with. . In Minnesota over 1/3 of all charges brought by police are rejected for prosecution by the County Attorneys. Let's be honest, essentially anyone that wants to be a LEO can be, case in point being our little innocent girl in Rochester with her gang banger boyfriend.

Since there's virtually nobody to oversee or prosecute LEO's unless it's a major infraction I think the law turns out to mean whatever they want it to mean. Even if you video tape them breaking the law the odds are slim that they'll be prosecuted as they, just like the prosecutors, are agents of the state, they are on the same team. In almost every case a blind eye will be turned unless there is substantial public outcry about the specific case.

What the Holy ****? 'The entry level is fairly low,' ' The mental faculties tend to reside more with the prosecuting office where they can act as a filter for the masses of LEO's' Cite your sources, name some cases, and citing your ass, which is apparently where you pulled this latest line of rubbish from doesn't count. It is wildly apparent you have no idea of what an LEOs job entails, or what qualifications are required, other than those preconceptions you've invented for yourself. As for this crap: 'As I made sure to note, these are only generalities, which means I'm sure there are plenty of bright honest LEO's out there.', Well, we're mighty obliged for your indulgence there, yes, mighty obliged that you saw fit to cast that crumb to us....you condescending jackass.

How about you state your profession, then we can all line up and unload all over that, see how much you enjoy it.


I'm beginning to take your ******** personally. Bigotry qualified with weasel worded generalities is still bigotry. if you've got some specific cases to cite of 'Dim-bulb' LEOs and prosecutors and cops conspiring to hide the truth instead of these unsubstantiated fantasies of yours, then pony them up, otherwise I'm calling you a troll that's full of crap. A rude and offensive troll with an agenda, but a troll nonetheless.

Now, all you moderators, step right up and give me a warning or ban me if you want- it's worth it, I'm sick of this posturing fool's mealy-mouthed hypocrisy, rudeness, and thinly veiled prejudices.

[justaguy]

I'm beginning to take your ******** personally.

That is the problem.

Widge, does it really matter? You both can say and do what you like. This is the intranet.

[nyffman]

I'm pretty sure Widge is a big boy who can and will stick up for himself. But, here's my $.02. There are differences, but there are consequences here just as there are in real life. If you keep posting stupid stuff, you'll be ignored and people will put you on ignore or you'll booted. Since this medium kinda exists for discussion/communication, you're wasting your time posting things that get you ignored or booted. Pretty much defeats the purpose. But I think that is completely over the head of some, based on their posting history. IMHO, if all you can do is rant like a mouth breathing redneck, go back to kindergarden and relearn how to play with the other kids. Unless your goal is to always be on the outside. In that case, carry on. As long as the mods allow.

[Widge]

Justa, you're right to a degree, but I take all prejudice, bigotry, and offensive stupidity seriously. For instance see how that tripe reads when you change a couple of words, and tell me if anyone here would tolerate or condone such unmitigated ***********:

I think you're making the mistake of assuming you were debating with a logical and bright person. On average your local Black candidateisn't going to be the brightest bulb on the tree. The barrier to entry is fairly low and, again on average, you're not getting the smartest people to debate the reality or finer points of politics with. The mental faculties tend to reside more with the Judicial branch where they can act as a filter for the masses of Black Politicians. In Minnesota over 1/3 of all Bills brought by Black Politicians are rejected for ratification by the Judiciary. Let's be honest, essentially any Black person that wants to be a Politician can be, case in point being our little innocent man in Washington with his black wife.

Since there's virtually nobody to oversee or prosecute Black Politicians unless it's a major infraction I think the law turns out to mean whatever they want it to mean. Even if you video tape them breaking the law the odds are slim that they'll be prosecuted as they, just like the Judiciary, are agents of the state, they are on the same team. In almost every case a blind eye will be turned unless there is substantial public outcry about the specific case.

As I made sure to note, these are only generalities, which means I'm sure there are plenty of bright honest Black Politicians out there.

See what I mean? Prejudice is prejudice, even if you try and weasel your way around it with qualifiers. Add a dose of condescension and some pet theories with no actual evidence in there, and you've got just a good old-fashioned bigot on your hands.

[ttousi]

alright.............
<mod hat on>
how about this..............tutmos your post has comments that are offensive and bigoted(since you cite no statistical data to back up your assertions.)

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I think you're making the mistake of assuming you were debating with a logical and bright person. On average your local LEO isn't going to be the brightest bulb on the tree. The barrier to entry is fairly low and, again on average, you're not getting the smartest people to debate the reality or finer points of law with.

Future posts using this tone with unsubstantiated statements will earn you the appropriate warnings and subsequent penalties.

Suggest you take it down a notch.......... whenever you attack a group of people based on profession/ethnicity/religion etc someone will find it offensive. Bigotry will not be tolerated here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry

<mod hat off>

Deep breath everyone.............thanks

[justaguy]

See what I mean? Prejudice is prejudice, even if you try and weasel your way around it with qualifiers. Add a dose of condescension and some pet theories with no actual evidence in there, and you've got just a good old-fashioned bigot on your hands.

This may be true, but people can still say what he said. Regardless of what others label them. Replace all your "Blacks" with "liberal", and people here would agree and not call him a bigot.

I'm not say you can't be mad, but put it in perspective. Everyone is bigoted about something.

[ttousi]

Having received input from several let me clarify my comments a bit.

Future posts using this tone with unsubstantiated statements will earn you the appropriate warnings and subsequent penalties.

tone:

On average your local LEO isn't going to be the brightest bulb on the tree.

sets the starting point as adversarial and/or demeaning
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unsubstantiated:

The barrier to entry is fairly low and,......

rather a broad statement........specific examples needed.

Lighten the tone some and give verifiable examples of low entry standards and I will sit back and observe.
While the less than polite responses to the above mentioned examples are understandable, they do nothing to diffuse the situation.

Round 2................ding

[Widge]

See what I mean? Prejudice is prejudice, even if you try and weasel your way around it with qualifiers. Add a dose of condescension and some pet theories with no actual evidence in there, and you've got just a good old-fashioned bigot on your hands.

This may be true, but people can still say what he said. Regardless of what others label them. Replace all your "Blacks" with "liberal", and people here would agree and not call him a bigot.

I'm not say you can't be mad, but put it in perspective. Everyone is bigoted about something.

Yes they are, and I am no different. The difference is, most people keep their bigotry to themselves and don't parade it around as if it's a badge of honor, and expect to get patted on the back for it.

I am in a minority of one here on the board (unless there are some other LEOs I don't know about) and I will defend my chosen profession against such pretentious, unsubstantiated, offensive, *********** whenever it's posted On the other hand, if it's justified, I'll first in line for the burning at the stake. In fact, I'll bring the gasoline and the matches.

Carrying a badge is an honorable way to make a living that not everyone can (or should do) and to have some fool call me (and the others who do it) unintelligent, lacking in integrity, and only here because it's easy job to get, is more than I'm prepared to tolerate. In fact, not to put too fine a point on it, it's **** rude, especially considering that in 2007 (the last year for which the FBI have published records) a significant number of these 'local dim bulbs' gave their lives to protect people like Mr. Tutmos in his Ivory Tower.