Why "nix" Magtech?

[SIGP240]

My pea-shooters, Baer, m-52s, m-41, P240 & P210 all take a dip in the tank every 500 Rnds. I have discovered that a simple combination of a quart of Hoppes, added to thinner, carb cleaner, spirits, acetone, naptha, chlorinated solvent, xylene, carbon disulfide and benzene makes powerful "witches brew" (that's what we called it back in Indiana). We soak these frames crudded up from 'tarry' powders like 700-x overnight and do a power rinse with half can of starting fluid followed a by 150 psi air hose treatment. I keep the 'brew' in an old gas can and filtrate it every 2 months thru a coffee filter. The crap that melts off my guns would make great pot-hole patch! Thanks a lot Mag-Tech! OBTW: If you guys have a Rem 1100 that needs a new life, float the receiver in this juice overnite, you would believe your eyes! You can get three teaspoons of gluck in the bottom of the soak tank!

[Pat]

I've never had an issue with Magtech ammo in any of my 1911's, and so was surprised to learn that Nighthawk recommended against it.

As far as being a little dirty, you are going to have to clean your gun anyway, right? For a session of 150-200 rounds, what's the diff?

[EJSG19]

.... simple combination of a quart of Hoppes, added to thinner, carb cleaner, spirits, acetone, naptha, chlorinated solvent, xylene, carbon disulfide and benzene makes powerful "witches brew" (that's what we called it back in Indiana). ... a power rinse with half can of starting fluid followed a by 150 psi air hose treatment. I keep the 'brew' in an old gas can and filtrate it every 2 months thru a coffee filter. ....

Holy well ventilated area Batman!

If that is simple I'd hate to see a complicated recipe! Hoppes 9, brush, patches and oil do my trick. To each their own, I just enjoyed reading that mainly!

Sounds like you could also degrease every Peterbilt that ever graced the highways too with a gallon of that stuff.

[Stradawhovious]

My pea-shooters, Baer, m-52s, m-41, P240 & P210 all take a dip in the tank every 500 Rnds. I have discovered that a simple combination of a quart of Hoppes, added to thinner, carb cleaner, spirits, acetone, naptha, chlorinated solvent, xylene, carbon disulfide and benzene makes powerful "witches brew" (that's what we called it back in Indiana). We soak these frames crudded up from 'tarry' powders like 700-x overnight and do a power rinse with half can of starting fluid followed a by 150 psi air hose treatment. I keep the 'brew' in an old gas can and filtrate it every 2 months thru a coffee filter. The crap that melts off my guns would make great pot-hole patch! Thanks a lot Mag-Tech! OBTW: If you guys have a Rem 1100 that needs a new life, float the receiver in this juice overnite, you would believe your eyes! You can get three teaspoons of gluck in the bottom of the soak tank!

Man, I wonder what that would do to the frame of a Glock?

[ttousi]

I'm guessing and hoping that it is meant to be read as:

simple combination of a quart of Hoppes, added to thinner, OR carb cleaner,OR spirits, OR acetone, OR naptha, OR chlorinated solvent, OR xylene, OR carbon disulfide OR benzene....

in other works Hoppes added to one of the items listed..........if not its one hellava potent and flammable and explosive and dangerous mix

[Stradawhovious]

in other works Hoppes added to one of the items listed..........if not its one hellava potent and flammable and explosive and dangerous mix

Come on tootsie, Where's your sense of adventure? Your house is insured isn't it?

[Pat]

I'm guessing and hoping that it is meant to be read as:

simple combination of a quart of Hoppes, added to thinner, OR carb cleaner,OR spirits, OR acetone, OR naptha, OR chlorinated solvent, OR xylene, OR carbon disulfide OR benzene....

in other works Hoppes added to one of the items listed..........if not its one hellava potent and flammable and explosive and dangerous mix

Throw in a sconch of nitric acid, and we'd really go to town (in a million pieces...)!

[bensdad]

I don't recall having problems with Magtech. I use their primers for large and small pistol also. Not too spendy.

[compconsultant]

if my memory serves me well, didn't/doesn't bill's south sell you magtech when you have to buy there ammo at their demo/manufacturers days? i'm fairly certain that's where i got my sole box of rounds (i have since reloaded from the spent ones) above my reloading bench. it all went bang the first time.

They sell magtech that you are required to buy for their rental guns as well.

[David]

Magtech is the cheapest that Bill's sells, and thus it is generally what people end up buying for rental guns, but they sell many other brands, too.

Regarding cleaning, I don't do much of it. I cleaned my G21 after the last steel shoot I went to, and that was the first time I had done it since the season started. I took two five-day classes with my M4, separated by six months, before cleaning it on the fourth day of the last class. I'm pretty sure I only needed to do that because we spent that day shooting frangible ammo.

I suppose if my life depended on a particular gun, I'd clean it more, but if mine still works, I don't clean them until I have a bunch of friends come over for zombie movie/gun cleaning night, and all I do is keep the solvents and patches coming. Advice to board members: Find a friend or relative who loves to clean guns, then invite him or her over a lot. My brother fits into this category, so I get most of my guns cleaned for free! He does a fantastic job, too...

[monschman]

a quart of Hoppes, added to thinner, carb cleaner, spirits, acetone, naptha, chlorinated solvent, xylene, carbon disulfide and benzene makes powerful "witches brew"

Fumes off that shnit, dude wait what? are you, could you be?



Jokes aside, our man back then used something rather similar for many purposes similar, never did tell anyone what was in that bucket though, and as for strad question to what it does to Glock frames, well i cant answer that but i know it does nothing to hk parts

[Veldy]

if my memory serves me well, didn't/doesn't bill's south sell you magtech when you have to buy there ammo at their demo/manufacturers days? i'm fairly certain that's where i got my sole box of rounds (i have since reloaded from the spent ones) above my reloading bench. it all went bang the first time.

Both Bill's sell you Magtech as their cheap ammo and the ammo to use with their rentais. I shot it through an SW1911PD and I had several failure to feeds on the first round. I am not sure what is different. I put a Wilson combat magazine in the same gun and that ammo shot fine 100%, so I can blame it in part on the gun's stock magazine. Having said that, other ammo, including my handloads [excluding SWC] shot through with the stock magazine just fine. Even the SWC shoots with the Wilson magazine.

Basically, I don't have a high opinion of the Magtech ammo all in all. I prefer WWB for cheap ammo ... feeds better in more guns [every gun that I have used].

[Wadero]

if my memory serves me well, didn't/doesn't bill's south sell you magtech when you have to buy there ammo at their demo/manufacturers days? i'm fairly certain that's where i got my sole box of rounds (i have since reloaded from the spent ones) above my reloading bench. it all went bang the first time.

Both Bill's sell you Magtech as their cheap ammo and the ammo to use with their rentais. I shot it through an SW1911PD and I had several failure to feeds on the first round. I am not sure what is different. I put a Wilson combat magazine in the same gun and that ammo shot fine 100%, so I can blame it in part on the gun's stock magazine. Having said that, other ammo, including my handloads [excluding SWC] shot through with the stock magazine just fine. Even the SWC shoots with the Wilson magazine.

Basically, I don't have a high opinion of the Magtech ammo all in all. I prefer WWB for cheap ammo ... feeds better in more guns [every gun that I have used].

I've also went to Bills and rented about 5 handguns and 4 of the weapons were so dirty that I don't think it mattered what ammo I put through them.

[Veldy]

I've also went to Bills and rented about 5 handguns and 4 of the weapons were so dirty that I don't think it mattered what ammo I put through them.

That's too bad. We have had pretty good luck with Bill's and getting relatively clean guns; both in Circle Pines and Robbinsdale. With many guns, like a Glock, you can field strip it [without a tool] yourself to take a look before you start shooting [if you know how to with the gun you are renting].

I have just found that many guns are a bit more picky about Magtech then they are with Federal American Eagle or WWB, so I am surprised they use that ammo as their standard. The point is to impress you with the gun so that you will go and buy it in their store, right? Magtech is a local company [importer perhaps], and Federal is a local company in Anoka (owned by Alliant who is based out of state), so they wouldn't be doing anybody a disservice to use Federal as their default ammo instead, or at least to suggest it over Magtech for their rentals. They already over charge for Ammo by 30% or more so they should have plenty of margin with either brand as they are similarly priced in other stores). I think WWB is sort of the universal "this bullet will work" and should be their default, but I suspect they are cutting a deal with the local companies and that is why they don't offer it with their rentals or in general.

[westberg]

As I mentioned in a earlier post we (my family) have shot through thousands of rounds of MagTech without any problems and different guns from 1911, XD's, Sig and M&P's.

I just recently ordered a STI and talking with Brazos, I asked about the expected accuracy. They don't give accuracy guarentee's because of so many variables in ammo. Then I asked with their test loads what do they expect to see with each gun, they said 1.5 at 25yds and their test load is WWB.

For my gun the point of aim and point of bullet impact has been very close between Magtech and WWB.

Magtech is one of the more dirty ammo's as told to me by an expect. But from time to time I like to run my guns until they fail from being dirty, just so I have a sense of how much I can expect to shoot them if I needed to. I don't expect a gun fight to last 1500+ rounds