Gun buy back in Minneapolis

[Squib Joe]

They have cops there, and the work-around is that they are being surrendered to the MPD - not "sold"

You sure about that? The Mpls cops currently aren't fans of Betsy Wetsy....and these are being run with the Mpls Fire Dept, not the PD.

I don't know, but every one I've been to had cops all over the place

The MPD is listed as a "partner"

"The Gun Buy-Back is a unique partnership with City of Minneapolis Government, with support from Mayor Betsy Hodges, Minneapolis Police Department, Minneapolis Fire Department, minneapolis african american professional firefighters association , Minneapolis Youth Violence Prevention Initiative, and the Arts, Culture and Creative Economy Office."

[westhope]

The Gun Buy-Back is a unique partnership with City of Minneapolis Government, with support from Mayor Betsy Hodges, Minneapolis Police Department ...

I thought EVERY firearm that passes through the hands of the police must go through a BCA check to verify that it was not used in a crime or stolen. Ballistics and serial number if stolen. Everyone who ever has had a firearm stolen should sue to have the firearms surrendered checked to verify it is not theirs. That is why it takes so long to get a firearm returned when surrendered or taken by the police for any reason.

Why should this be an exception? Especially since they were probably obtained without going through a background check.

I can't think of any of my firearms I would part with for $300, but will look for some worthless junk to get for the next "buyback".

[Squib Joe]

Cops are not FFLs. And this is still a transfer of a firearm. I don't believe there is any exception in state law about 'surrendering weapons to police', is there?

Many, many firearms are turned over to the police for a variety of reasons. Some voluntarily because of problems in the home, due to restraining / protective orders or because of mental health issues. Sometimes because a person just doesn't want it in the home. Some are just "found". As far as I know, this is a public safety requirement for any department and there would probably be some liability if a firearm was used in a crime after a PD refused to accept it.

[Squib Joe]

Oh sweet Jeebus! I've got a pile of stuff to unload. Payday coming! I wonder if there's a limit?

EDIT: doing a quick inventory I my head, I'm going to have a big payday! I've got so many old guns that aren't worth what they are willing to pay!

Be careful. If they suspect you're a dealer (or as happened in Chicago - if you happen to be white) you might get turned away.

[westhope]

So, "No Questions Asked".

I go to Menards, buy some black iron pipe, pipe cap and nail for less than $10. I should be able to make a few dozen functional 12 gauge "Zip Guns" for a good profit.

(Plans available on the internet. No need for 3-D computer printing. All that is needed is a hacksaw and drill.)

[westhope]

... you might get turned away.

I would love to see a video of that posted on You Tube. Refusing to "get evil guns off the street".

[usnret]

This buy back must be that "Gunshow Loophole" that I keep hearing about.
Maybe someone should drop a dime on them and let the ATF know that someone is buying a lot of guns.

[Ghost]

I wonder what I'd get for my unfinished 80% lower? $300 would make it worth selling.

[atomic41]

So, "No Questions Asked".

I go to Menards, buy some black iron pipe, pipe cap and nail for less than $10. I should be able to make a few dozen functional 12 gauge "Zip Guns" for a good profit.

(Plans available on the internet. No need for 3-D computer printing. All that is needed is a hacksaw and drill.)

That was done in other cities.

[LePetomane]

I wonder how many will be used as "throw down" guns.

[Ironbear]

I wonder what I'd get for my unfinished 80% lower? $300 would make it worth selling.

How about a 0% receiver?!?
http://www.80percentarms.com/products/0-billet-ar-15-lower-receiver

[BigBlue]

Cops are not FFLs. And this is still a transfer of a firearm. I don't believe there is any exception in state law about 'surrendering weapons to police', is there?

Many, many firearms are turned over to the police for a variety of reasons. Some voluntarily because of problems in the home, due to restraining / protective orders or because of mental health issues. Sometimes because a person just doesn't want it in the home. Some are just "found". As far as I know, this is a public safety requirement for any department and there would probably be some liability if a firearm was used in a crime after a PD refused to accept it.

Regardless of whether it happens a lot, I'm still of the opinion that there is no actual exception for it in law. It is not a private, person-to-person transaction so there should be an FFL involved. Either all PDs should become FFLs or an FFL should background check the PD receiver. I'm being nit-picky and obtuse here, because that's what the gov does to us. They should follow the laws to the letter if we have to.

[Randygmn]

Someone should file suit and get the buy back put on hold prior to the event and force the "buyers" to perform background checks on all the transfers of firearms. This isnt a turn in. This is a purchase. If nothing else, it will be an embarrassment once this hits the news about how the "government" tried to circumvent state law. At best, it will force other buy back programs to comply with the added hassle/time/expense of NICS checks and then checking each gun to see if it was ever reported stolen. They can still offer "immunity" for those turning in stolen weapons, but they should be compelled by court order to make every attempt to ascertain the rightful owners and return the property.

Perhaps this is something GOCRA wants to pursue?

[Randygmn]

Oh sweet Jeebus! I've got a pile of stuff to unload. Payday coming! I wonder if there's a limit?

EDIT: doing a quick inventory I my head, I'm going to have a big payday! I've got so many old guns that aren't worth what they are willing to pay!

Be careful. If they suspect you're a dealer (or as happened in Chicago - if you happen to be white) you might get turned away.

That's right. With obama's new executive order, can't you be prosecuted for selling even just 1 gun for profit (not even a requirement) now? There's a news story in there somewhere. I mean, "no questions asked", my ass. Who is going to run the risk of being arbitrarily subjected to the whims of the ATF in a possible sting operation

[LarryP]

No mention of Potato Guns??? Bummer