What the Catechism of the Catholic Church says about defendi

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Catechism of the Catholic Church
◾PART THREE: LIFE IN CHRIST
◾SECTION TWO THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
◾CHAPTER TWO YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF
◾Article 5 THE FIFTH COMMANDMENT
◾I. Respect for Human Life
2263 The legitimate defense of persons and societies is not an exception to the prohibition against the murder of the innocent that constitutes intentional killing. “The act of self-defense can have a double effect: the preservation of one’s own life; and the killing of the aggressor. . . . The one is intended, the other is not.”
2264 Love toward oneself remains a fundamental principle of morality. Therefore it is legitimate to insist on respect for one’s own right to life. Someone who defends his life is not guilty of murder even if he is forced to deal his aggressor a lethal blow:
If a man in self-defense uses more than necessary violence, it will be unlawful: whereas if he repels force with moderation, his defense will be lawful. . . . Nor is it necessary for salvation that a man omit the act of moderate self-defense to avoid killing the other man, since one is bound to take more care of one’s own life than of another’s.
2265 Legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for one who is responsible for the lives of others. The defense of the common good requires that an unjust aggressor be rendered unable to cause harm. For this reason, those who legitimately hold authority also have the right to use arms to repel aggressors against the civil community entrusted to their responsibility”

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So!

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Thanks Father!

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No problem. Any time.

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So

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It is from an article from the Mackabee Society. It is a society that helps Catholic men be better role models for their families and community. A lot of anti gun and anti police folks say that the church does not condone the taking of a life under any circumstances. I do not know about other flavors of Christianity but the Catholic Catechism expressly condones defending yourself.

On Friday I turned in my paperwork to Washington County for my carry permit. As head of my household, devout Catholic, concerned with the trouble in the world, and concerned with my safety as I go about the needed travels in my business, this is something I can remind the liberal Catholics about when they question my desire to carry a firearm. If you read the words and just think of it as an article on your natural right to defend yourself there is some pretty insightful stuff there.

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So when the priest is ************ the altar boys is he considered the aggressor? Can they then use lethal force to defend themselves?

I have been contemplating whether or not I will carry in church. There have been a few incidences of church shootings and the one stabbing of a Catholic priest.

My son is an altar server.

Contrary to how they are portrayed in the media Catholic Priests are no more likely to diddle young kids than the general population. The Catholic Church is just a big target. Teachers have a higher rate of abuse than priests. In fact the rate if sexual abuse is declining not only in the church but also in the general public.

[LePetomane]

I have been contemplating whether or not I will carry in church. There have been a few incidences of church shootings and the one stabbing of a Catholic priest.

My son is an altar server.

Contrary to how they are portrayed in the media Catholic Priests are no more likely to diddle young kids than the general population. The Catholic Church is just a big target. Teachers have a higher rate of abuse than priests. In fact the rate if sexual abuse is declining not only in the church but also in the general public.

The Catholic Church has taken a huge beating from the Obama Administration and just keeps coming back for more. They just keep supporting BHO because they judge him on his superficial well meaning intentions. Just look at the welcoming committee that BHO had for the Pope. It was a slap in the face. A pro-abortion nun, gay and transgender bloggers, cross dressers. And yet he came. I think BHO should offer the same circus for some radical imams when they visit him in DC.

The thing about teachers and sexual abuse, they have their unions to protect them so nothing ever comes of it.

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I work for a group composed of Catholic men. For the most part it is very conservative. It is interesting to see the liberal Catholics who think you have to vote Democrat if you are Catholic. Some of the most important tenets of our faith fall to the right.

One of our agents was visiting a client. He mistakenly mentioned politics and his support of some conservative right wing kind of thing. He did not notice the Hillary bumper sticker on the fridge.

Several of our agents carry. I am going to. Going into some areas of the twin cities at night alone makes a bit uneasy. I have been approached a few times in dark church parking lots.

[old guy]

Read Luke 22:36

[LePetomane]

I work for a group composed of Catholic men. For the most part it is very conservative. It is interesting to see the liberal Catholics who think you have to vote Democrat if you are Catholic. Some of the most important tenets of our faith fall to the right.

This is because the sinister democrats have managed to convince some that they are all about charity, generosity, compassion, etc., values that many Catholics live by.

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I work for a group composed of Catholic men. For the most part it is very conservative. It is interesting to see the liberal Catholics who think you have to vote Democrat if you are Catholic. Some of the most important tenets of our faith fall to the right.

This is because the sinister democrats have managed to convince some that they are all about charity, generosity, compassion, etc., values that many Catholics live by.

The Catholic company I work for donated $177 million to charity last year. Our members devoted 77 million volunteer hours to our parishes and communities.

We are the major sponsor for the Special Olympics. We are a major contributor to Mother Teresa's mission. We contributed $1.4 million to firefighters, first responders and police officers who perished in the 911 attacks. We sponsor winter coat giveaways, international wheelchair missions, prosthetic limb mission in Haiti.

You can be all about charity, compassion, generosity... and be conservative.

I would like the church to do more (I demonstrate that in my personal tithing, my occupation, the way I lead my life, what I teach my children).

When a church sponsors an immigrant family they have a built in support system.

I would like the government to do less. When the government subsidizes a lifestyle you get more of that kind of lifestyle.

I feel everyone has a natural, God-given right to self defense by whatever means they deem necessary and prudent.

[LePetomane]

You can be all about charity, compassion, generosity... and be conservative.

These are christian values, not liberal values. Liberals are anything but charitable and generous. This is where they have a lot of Roman Catholics fooled.

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You can be all about charity, compassion, generosity... and be conservative.

These are christian values, not liberal values. Liberals are anything but charitable and generous. This is where they have a lot of Roman Catholics fooled.

Amen