Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

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Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

Postby jdege on Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:10 pm

http://reason.com/blog/2016/10/11/minn-judge-swat-raid-unconstitutional
Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unconstitutional

A Hennepin County (Minn.) drug squad — known as the Emergency Services Unit (ESU) — conducted a pre-dawn no-knock raid on a house in North Minneapolis one morning in November 2015. They were looking for Walter Power, who they suspected of being a marijuana dealer. To search the home they believed Power to be sleeping in, they brought a force of between 28-32 officers, most clad in riot gear and carrying rifles, accompanied by a sniper seated atop a Ballistic Engineered Armored Response (BEAR) vehicle.

Why did law enforcement officials feel they needed to display a show of overwhelming force that would be intense even in a foreign occupied city? Because the primary resident of the house, Michael Delgado, was a registered gun-owner with a license to carry.
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Re: Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

Postby Ghost on Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:13 pm

Good, that seems like it is just a good way to get somebody killed over something that nobody needs to die for.
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Re: Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

Postby rtk on Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:59 pm

"Good, that seems like it is just a good way to get somebody killed over something that nobody needs to die for."


Totally agree.
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Re: Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

Postby xd ED on Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:07 pm

rtk wrote:"Good, that seems like it is just a good way to get somebody killed over something that nobody needs to die for."


Totally agree.


Yep.
A hostage rescue of similar life threatening situation is one thing, but to catch some schmoe with his stash is something else entirely.
If the domicile is such a threatening environment to assault, and they really need to pop him, they should just grab him when he is off premises.
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Re: Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

Postby MJY65 on Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:27 pm

xd ED wrote:If the domicile is such a threatening environment to assault, and they really need to pop him, they should just grab him when he is off premises.


....but that's no fun.


I agree. Door kicking should be an extreme rarity reserved for extreme situations.
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Re: Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

Postby Bearcatrp on Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:06 pm

Dumb ass cops over reacting for a little weed. Lucky no one was shot. Then they wonder why folks hate cops in this state.
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Re: Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

Postby steve4102 on Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:31 pm

Yet, we keep hearing and reading that LEO are on the side of the second amendment and would refuse orders to confiscate etc. Seems like they are ready willing and able to do anything they are told, regardless of the constitution.
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Re: Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

Postby steve4102 on Wed Oct 12, 2016 6:40 pm

Anyone have a link to the actual case and ruling? All I can find is Media reports.
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Re: Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

Postby xd ED on Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:04 pm

steve4102 wrote:Yet, we keep hearing and reading that LEO are on the side of the second amendment and would refuse orders to confiscate etc. Seems like they are ready willing and able to do anything they are told, regardless of the constitution.



That's two very b road generalizations in two sentences.
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Re: Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

Postby Ghost on Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:46 pm

xd ED wrote:
steve4102 wrote:Yet, we keep hearing and reading that LEO are on the side of the second amendment and would refuse orders to confiscate etc. Seems like they are ready willing and able to do anything they are told, regardless of the constitution.



That's two very b road generalizations in two sentences.

It's one thing to go after "a" bad guy. Things change when you go after "100 million" bad guys.
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Re: Pre-Dawn No-Knock SWAT Raid for Minor Drug Charge Ruled Unco

Postby linksep on Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:16 pm

Ghost wrote:
xd ED wrote:
steve4102 wrote:Yet, we keep hearing and reading that LEO are on the side of the second amendment and would refuse orders to confiscate etc. Seems like they are ready willing and able to do anything they are told, regardless of the constitution.



That's two very b road generalizations in two sentences.

It's one thing to go after "a" bad guy. Things change when you go after "100 million" bad guys.


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