MURDERS IN US VERY CONCENTRATED

[karlobag]

How could this be? LA County and California have some of the strictest "gun control" laws in the country! Shouldn't they have the fewest murders and lowest crime there?

http://crimeresearch.org/2017/04/number-murders-county-54-us-counties-2014-zero-murders-69-1-murder/

[Ghost]

[BigBlue]

It's almost like it is the people causing the murders and not the tool they use... Weird. Either that or places with high density cause angst???

Looks like SoCal is a poor choice of place to reside.

[rtk]

gang banger crap.

[MJY65]

Not surprising, but silly use of statistics. It needs to be expressed as murder rate in those counties, not raw numbers.

[Ironbear]

@MJY65 Was thinking the same thing. Many of the places that have high numbers, have high populations. Naturally they would have higher numbers. The interesting thing that this shows is that focusing on limited regions and neighborhoods would have a disproportionate effect. Oh wait... that would be profiling!

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[Ghost]

Not surprising, but silly use of statistics. It needs to be expressed as murder rate in those counties, not raw numbers.

Lies, damn lies and statistics

[Holland&Holland]

@MJY65 Was thinking the same thing. Many of the places that have high numbers, have high populations. Naturally they would have higher numbers. The interesting thing that this shows is that focusing on limited regions and neighborhoods would have a disproportionate effect. Oh wait... that would be profiling!

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Maybe, but a death is a death. I would contend that just because you have a higher population does not mean you need to have more murders.

[MJY65]

@MJY65 Was thinking the same thing. Many of the places that have high numbers, have high populations. Naturally they would have higher numbers. The interesting thing that this shows is that focusing on limited regions and neighborhoods would have a disproportionate effect. Oh wait... that would be profiling!

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Maybe, but a death is a death. I would contend that just because you have a higher population does not mean you need to have more murders.

Well, it kind of does. All else being equal (it's not), you'd expect the murder RATE to be the same throughout the country/state. If that were the case, the raw number of murders should be proportional to population. If you used the same click bait headline and applied it to Minnesota, you would say that the overwhelming majority of murders in MN occur in 2% of the counties (Hennepin and Ramsey, 2 of 87). That's true, but they also account for over 30% of the population in the state. The headline is misleading.

The truth seems to be that high density areas (and their particular demographic) have BOTH higher raw murder numbers and murder rates, but the headline deliberately sensationalizes the disparity.

[Holland&Holland]

@MJY65 Was thinking the same thing. Many of the places that have high numbers, have high populations. Naturally they would have higher numbers. The interesting thing that this shows is that focusing on limited regions and neighborhoods would have a disproportionate effect. Oh wait... that would be profiling!

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Maybe, but a death is a death. I would contend that just because you have a higher population does not mean you need to have more murders.

Well, it kind of does. All else being equal (it's not), you'd expect the murder RATE to be the same throughout the country/state. If that were the case, the raw number of murders should be proportional to population. If you used the same click bait headline and applied it to Minnesota, you would say that the overwhelming majority of murders in MN occur in 2% of the counties (Hennepin and Ramsey, 2 of 87). That's true, but they also account for over 30% of the population in the state. The headline is misleading.

The truth seems to be that high density areas (and their particular demographic) have BOTH higher raw murder numbers and murder rates, but the headline deliberately sensationalizes the disparity.

I get the statistics. I am just saying maybe the real issue gets lost in those statistics.

[wasfuzz]

Facts and figures don't lie, but the people who compile them do! About 20 yrs ago the county with the highest murder rate per capita in MN was Le Seuer Cnty, sounds alarming until you looked at the population vs the number of murders!

[Lumpy]

Doubtless they also counted everyone who was stabbed or beaten to death who happened to own a gun as part of the "statistical risk" of gun ownership.

Statistically, the most dangerous substance known to man is dihydrogen monoxide. (hint: look it up. )