Randygmn wrote:Holy crap- I'm not sure if you've shared THAT story here (link?)- but if not, I'd love to hear about it in a separate thread. Wow.
(I love northern Idaho - western Montana area.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Weaver
Wait- you sold Randy Weaver the rifle he used in self defense on Ruby Ridge? Wow. I have no idea how you feel about it, but that would be a source of pride had it been me.
OldmanFCSA wrote:Randygmn wrote:Holy crap- I'm not sure if you've shared THAT story here (link?)- but if not, I'd love to hear about it in a separate thread. Wow.
(I love northern Idaho - western Montana area.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Weaver
Wait- you sold Randy Weaver the rifle he used in self defense on Ruby Ridge? Wow. I have no idea how you feel about it, but that would be a source of pride had it been me.
NOT pride ......................................................... ???????????????????????????????????????? Not sure ......................................... Thin Blue Line.
Squib Joe wrote:I'm pretty sure, as I remember it, that Randy Weaver didn't shoot anybody at Ruby Ridge.
Sammy Weaver used a Mini-14 and Kevin Harris used a 1917 Enfield rifle to fire at Agents. No mention of a Herters rifle that I've seen, so maybe that wasn't one of yours, OldmanFCSA
Randygmn wrote:No formal background check necessary. Must be over 21 for a pistol and must not sell to a prohibited person. If you suspect they are, don't sell.
Some folks, out of an abundance of caution, request to see a drivers license and a permit to purchase/carry. Some will even insist on a bill of sale to CYA.
rmc51 wrote:Randygmn wrote:No formal background check necessary. Must be over 21 for a pistol and must not sell to a prohibited person. If you suspect they are, don't sell.
Some folks, out of an abundance of caution, request to see a drivers license and a permit to purchase/carry. Some will even insist on a bill of sale to CYA.
This answer was put up in 2017. Has there been any changes to the law in MN for a FTF sale of a pistol. Can anyone point me to where I can find this info.
Thank you.
RMC
rmc51 wrote:This answer was put up in 2017. Has there been any changes to the law in MN for a FTF sale of a pistol. Can anyone point me to where I can find this info.
Gross misdemeanor; transferring firearm without background check.
A person, other than a federally licensed firearms dealer, who transfers a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon to another without complying with the transfer requirements of section 624.7132, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor if the transferee possesses or uses the weapon within one year after the transfer in furtherance of a felony crime of violence, and if:
(1) the transferee was prohibited from possessing the weapon under section 624.713 at the time of the transfer; or
(2) it was reasonably foreseeable at the time of the transfer that the transferee was likely to use or possess the weapon in furtherance of a felony crime of violence.
bstrawse wrote:rmc51 wrote:Randygmn wrote:No formal background check necessary. Must be over 21 for a pistol and must not sell to a prohibited person. If you suspect they are, don't sell.
Some folks, out of an abundance of caution, request to see a drivers license and a permit to purchase/carry. Some will even insist on a bill of sale to CYA.
This answer was put up in 2017. Has there been any changes to the law in MN for a FTF sale of a pistol. Can anyone point me to where I can find this info.
Thank you.
RMC
Nothing has changed.
Bryan
jdege wrote:rmc51 wrote:This answer was put up in 2017. Has there been any changes to the law in MN for a FTF sale of a pistol. Can anyone point me to where I can find this info.
The important thing to understand is that if you sell a pistol or "assault weapon" to someone without seeing his DL and PTP or PTC, you're opening yourself to songs significant legal risk.
Minn. Stat. 609.66 Subd. 1f:Gross misdemeanor; transferring firearm without background check.
A person, other than a federally licensed firearms dealer, who transfers a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon to another without complying with the transfer requirements of section 624.7132, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor if the transferee possesses or uses the weapon within one year after the transfer in furtherance of a felony crime of violence, and if:
(1) the transferee was prohibited from possessing the weapon under section 624.713 at the time of the transfer; or
(2) it was reasonably foreseeable at the time of the transfer that the transferee was likely to use or possess the weapon in furtherance of a felony crime of violence.
If you don't know the buyer, and don't know for a fact that he's not a prohibited person, make seeing his DL and PTC a condition of sale, and make a copy.
Don't pin your hopes on "it want wasn't reasonably foreseeable". That's an argument and a subjective judgement call, which means lawyers arguing, which means wads of money out of your wallet, even if you win.
jdege wrote:rmc51 wrote:This answer was put up in 2017. Has there been any changes to the law in MN for a FTF sale of a pistol. Can anyone point me to where I can find this info.
The important thing to understand is that if you sell a pistol or "assault weapon" to someone without seeing his DL and PTP or PTC, you're opening yourself to songs significant legal risk.
Minn. Stat. 609.66 Subd. 1f:Gross misdemeanor; transferring firearm without background check.
A person, other than a federally licensed firearms dealer, who transfers a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon to another without complying with the transfer requirements of section 624.7132, is guilty of a gross misdemeanor if the transferee possesses or uses the weapon within one year after the transfer in furtherance of a felony crime of violence, and if:
(1) the transferee was prohibited from possessing the weapon under section 624.713 at the time of the transfer; or
(2) it was reasonably foreseeable at the time of the transfer that the transferee was likely to use or possess the weapon in furtherance of a felony crime of violence.
If you don't know the buyer, and don't know for a fact that he's not a prohibited person, make seeing his DL and PTC a condition of sale, and make a copy.
Don't pin your hopes on "it want wasn't reasonably foreseeable". That's an argument and a subjective judgement call, which means lawyers arguing, which means wads of money out of your wallet, even if you win.
rmc51 wrote:I would think that item #2 would be heading to the courts. #2 is subjective, vague and lacking in reality.
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