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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby Einthoven's Triangle on Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:29 pm

A guy I shoot with uses one for a dedicated universal decapping station!
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby gman1868 on Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:08 pm

I like my 650.

XL650
XL 650 Case Feeder
Strong Mount
Bullet tray
Roller Handle
CV-500 Case cleaner
Polishing Media
CM-500 Media Separator
Case Guage (for the caliber you're going to reload)
Bullet puller
3-Die set
Dillon electronic scale
Digital Caliper
Primer flip tray
Bench Wrench

This will be around $1250 from John at Gun Stop. Another $130 for 1000 bullets, primers and powder (assuming you already have 1000 cases). A conversion kit for another pistol caliber will be around $225.
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby DeanC on Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:27 pm

Einthoven's Triangle wrote:A guy I shoot with uses one for a dedicated universal decapping station!

That is what you see on the right in this picture:
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby justaguy on Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:48 am

They still make that Foster press. There isn't enough difference for me to bother. I have a Chucker and it works.

SDB cant do rifle and cost just about as much as a 550 which can do it all. And I'm sure you know that the dies only work in the SDB.

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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby gman1868 on Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:03 pm

From the list I posted, getting a 550 instead of a 650 will save you less than 10% of the overall cost of the equipment necessary to start reloading a single caliber. In addition, you don't necessarily need all the options I added to mine. I am very happy with the decision I made to buy the 650 and I think you would be too.
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby JoeH on Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:04 pm

gman-

You're just a "one up'r". ;)
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby R.E.T. on Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:48 pm

Go to brianenos.com for a good description of the differences between the 550 and 650.
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby cobb on Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:52 pm

R.E.T. wrote:Go to brianenos.com for a good description of the differences between the 550 and 650.

Could you maybe provide a direct link for us?

I cut and paste the brianenos.com and it takes me to his web site, which it appears that he is a retailer. No problem with that, but a link straight to what you mention would be nice.
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby gman1868 on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:03 pm

JoeH wrote:gman-

You're just a "one up'r". ;)


Who, me? :P
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby Einthoven's Triangle on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:28 pm

Conversion for handgun rounds do not necessitate the purchase of another powder measure. A waste of money, IMHO, cause it takes about 1 minute to swap from one tool head to another.
Dillon Machine> 650 550

Basic press with one conversion 505 396
Additional conversions 72 41
Additional tool heads 23 19
Powder die 10 10
Strong Mount 42 42
Aluminum Roller Handle 39 39
Dillon Dies 45 and 357 118 118
Basic Press Subtotal $809 $665

Case feeder 200 240
Case Feeder Plate 39 39
Press plus case feeder $1048 $945

Lyman Dial Caliper 26 26
Eliminator Scale 50 50
CV750 Tumbler 120 120
Media Separator 41 41
Accessory Total $237 $237

Without Case Feeder $1045 $902
With Case Feeder $1285 $1182

Plus add in a couple of reloading manuals and tumbling media plus consumables ie powder primers and powder.

The money is not that great a difference. But, there are some other more intangibles....the 650 is more complicated learning curve, and the propensity for kabooms with ham fisted operators who set of the whole primer tube......
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby Einthoven's Triangle on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:32 pm

A person could save some $ by getting a RCBS or a Lyman tumbler instead of the Dillon, and getting the RCBS media seperator saves some money. For hand gun rounds a person really does not need an electronic scale.. The Dillon Eliminator is a good deal. Harbor frt had calipers and such. You can snag some walnut lizzard litter at petco or wally world, and get some Nu Finish car polish. One always needs a mechanical scale to back up an electronic scale. Never know when it might go south!!!! Frankford Arsenal and MTM make cheaper electronic scale as an option. You do not need case gauges, you can just pop the bbl out of your 45ACP.
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby justaguy on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:34 pm

Here Cobb.http://www.brianenos.com/pages/dillon.html People say he is good to deal with but I haven't done so. I think his prices go up at noon tomorrow. On his forum it has the price increases. Over a certain price point he gives free shipping.

Thanks but I have that web site memorized as much as the dillon site.

ETA:
Dillon's Precision's 2009 price increase on BrianEnos.com: Dillon's first-of-the-year price increase (overall average: 3.5%) will occur on BrianEnos.com on Wednesday, December 31, at aproximately noon, Mountain Time.
(Percentage of increase for specific presses: Square Deal: 3.9%; 550: 2.8%; 650: 5%; 1050: 1.3%)
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby justaguy on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:51 pm

Einthoven's Triangle wrote:The money is not that great a difference.

Thats what I said on the first page 11th post down from the top. Thats what made me think why not the 650?

Well its over. The 650 won.
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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby Stradawhovious on Tue Dec 30, 2008 7:57 pm

justaguy wrote:Well its over. The 650 won.


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Re: Dillon 550 or 650??

Postby gman1868 on Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:51 pm

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Well its over. The 650 won.[/quote]


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