Mncarbon15 wrote:Erud wrote:Mncarbon15 wrote:I’m going thru the same thing now but with Accutac. They will not respond to any emails/text or phone calls. I’m going to be in touch with a lawyer this week. I can not believe how this has been handled. I wish I could say they are the answer but think again I purchased in June of 2018 and I only get a smug shrug of the shoulders when I go in. No accountability what so ever.
If you don’t mind me asking, what specifically is going on with yours? I’m at 7 months and assume that I have a ways to go yet, but being my first one I don’t know for sure. ATF cashed my check in December. Thanks
I have no idea what is going on and that is the problem. After calling him out online he has now responded and is sending them on for me to try at another dealer. At the two year mark it is not the “process” any more. I have four other cans two from him and two from another dealer. Both went seamlessly. Mine got lost in the shuffle and after being told over and over and over it would be looked into and not getting any response I’m going to start over somewhere else.
I've been thinking a lot about this since I'm still waiting for my tax stamp after 818 days. I my case, the FFL (The Modern Sportsman) botched two submittals to the ATF. This burned up over a year and a half. Unfortunately, nobody at the FFL ever checked on my Form 4 or (later) admitted that they had not submitted the paperwork or payments correctly. Instead, because it was easier for them, they constantly blamed the ATF. After all, The BATF is a large bureaucratic government entity, why
not blame them?
Having purchased the NFA item on Black Friday 2018, my trust paperwork was only submitted correctly and properly on September 4, 2020. As of the week of March 4, 2021 the ATF sent The Modern Sportsman a Correction Letter related to my Form 4. The ATF told the FFL that my kids (who are beneficiary trustees) now have to be finger printed and photographed. The new person doing the paperwork at TMS has not had a lot of NFA experience (mostly does shipping) and, upon receiving the correction letter, simply asked me to pick a time to drag my children into the gun range to be inked and mug-shoted... I told her that I would walk away from this silencer before doing that.
What I did do was contact knowledgeable NFA people. Within 3 working days I had a trust amendment in my hands that changed the definition of who can possess an NFA item per my trust. The NFA person at TMS didn't think of this and in my opinion probably didn't care how inconvenient it would be for me and my family to drag us in yet a 4th time. After all, I had dutifully come back 3 times with my spouse to be printed and photographed over the course of two years, right?
As of this week, I am under the impression that the ATF is in possession of my amended gun trust. I am of course still waiting.
So the moral to this story is to remain highly skeptical of your FFL's actions and to validate, check and verify regularly. I believe that this FFL got into NFA products without fully thinking through how it was going to properly serve its customers. As a matter of fact, I was told by one of the staff there that if they could, they would like to simply stop selling them.
Is the ATF a large, slow bureaucratic mud hole? Maybe, but it would be nice if seller incompetence were not added into the mix as well.