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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby goalie on Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:13 pm

Widge wrote:
goalie wrote:
smacsteve wrote:I'll second or third or where ever I am on the list on the Sig 226 or 229 9MM. Forget the Glock.


Or buy a used Glock at Streichers and get 300 bucks worth of ammo to learn how to use it for the same price as that used Sig.....

;)



Yeah, but after you shot all the ammo, you still only got a Glock ;)


Yup, it's just a tool. After all, it isn't the arrow, it's the indian......

And all that shooting you did with the extra cash you saved probably made you a more accurate indian.....
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby rtk on Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:02 pm

goalie wrote: After all, it isn't the arrow, it's the indian......

And all that shooting you did with the extra cash you saved probably made you a more accurate indian.....


:bravo: :cheers:
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby Widge on Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:42 pm

rtk wrote:
goalie wrote: After all, it isn't the arrow, it's the indian......

And all that shooting you did with the extra cash you saved probably made you a more accurate indian.....


:bravo: :cheers:


Yeah, but an Indian with a Glock! :lol: :D
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby NDB_MN on Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:15 am

If you're looking for a polymer pistol, look for Glock, Springfield XD or S&W M&P. They're all very reliable and (despite fanboyism for one brand or another) rather similar.

If you're looking for steel, I'd go with SIG, Beretta or a CZ-75b.

Personally, I like the XD's grip angle and feel better than Glock. I like the M&P's feel, but not its trigger. Truth be told, none of the polymer pistols have good triggers out of the box. Glock is going to have the best aftermarket support, followed by XD, followed by M&P. On the metal side, SIG is probably the most solid choice, but I've had GREAT results with the CZ-75b's that my friends own.

You mentioned capacity of ~30... most 30 round aftermarket magazines for pistols are prone to jamming. They are toys, and not much more.

For stock capacity, the Springfield XDm in 9mm comes with 19 round magazines, the S&W M&P9 and Glock 17 both come with 17 rounders. SIG 226s usually come with 15 round magazines, Berettas usually come with 15/16 rounders, CZ-75b will be 16 or 18 depending on model. Some aftermarket manufacturers make reliable magazines that hold 1-2 more rounds than factory. Almost all have the ability to have an extended base-plate added that increases capacity by 3-5 rounds. That is about the limit to reliable feeding in a pistol.

If I was gunning for solely capacity, I would get an XDm and throw http://www.PistolGear.com aluminum base-plate extensions on for a capacity of 28+1. That's about as high as you'll get with reliability intact. But you'll be paying ~$100 per magazine with those base-plate extenders.

EDIT: never mind about Pistol Gear's metal XDm magazine extenders seems they're out of them. Best bet then would be Arredondo's which would give you 23+1.
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby NDB_MN on Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:20 am

SAM wrote:I just got rid of my Sig P226 9mm. My son-in-law was the LUCKY recipient. I have tried Glocks and don't like the feel of plastic in my hand.


Perhaps the CZ-75 SP01 then? http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=73
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby goalie on Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:56 am

NDB_MN wrote:If I was gunning for solely capacity, I would get an XDm and throw http://www.PistolGear.com aluminum base-plate extensions on for a capacity of 28+1. That's about as high as you'll get with reliability intact. But you'll be paying ~$100 per magazine with those base-plate extenders.


Really? Someone should tell my Glock OEM 30 round magazines that they are unreliable, because thousands of rounds through them without a hiccup have apparently failed to inform them of their unreliability.

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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby Holland&Holland on Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:09 am

goalie wrote:
NDB_MN wrote:If I was gunning for solely capacity, I would get an XDm and throw http://www.PistolGear.com aluminum base-plate extensions on for a capacity of 28+1. That's about as high as you'll get with reliability intact. But you'll be paying ~$100 per magazine with those base-plate extenders.


Really? Someone should tell my Glock OEM 30 round magazines that they are unreliable, because thousands of rounds through them without a hiccup have apparently failed to inform them of their unreliability.

:roll:


SSSSHHHHH don't tell them that they are not supposed to be reliable. :)
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby NDB_MN on Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:25 am

Awesome that you've had 30 rounders that work :-) There are just far... FAR... more reviews of 30 rounders failing than other mag types. I'm sure it's like most other things, the only people who bother to write about it are the ones who are pissed because they don't work.
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby goalie on Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:32 am

NDB_MN wrote:Awesome that you've had 30 rounders that work :-) There are just far... FAR... more reviews of 30 rounders failing than other mag types. I'm sure it's like most other things, the only people who bother to write about it are the ones who are pissed because they don't work.


Um, the G18's (full auto 9mm) and OEM 30-round magazines are notoriously reliable, not the other way around. Are you referring to the Scherer (sp?) 30-rounders?
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby 1911fan on Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:38 am

The g18 thirty rounder is widely regarded as on of the best available. I have several and they work perfectly in both nine and .40
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby Widge on Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:54 pm

SAM wrote:NO Glocks here!!! I ended up with another Sig P226 in 9mm. 1995 West German manufacture. Now, I have a question. Has anyone here attended any of the Sig Training offered through their web-site ?


I've taken the Armorer's course in NH. I've heard nothing but good things about their other offerings and the Academy is certainly state of the art. If I had enough spare conkers I wouldn't think twice about taking another course there.
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby Veldy on Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:57 am

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smacsteve wrote:I'll second or third or where ever I am on the list on the Sig 226 or 229 9MM. Forget the Glock.


Or buy a used Glock at Streichers and get 300 bucks worth of ammo to learn how to use it for the same price as that used Sig.....

;)


They charge 75%-80% of the cost of new for any Glock pistol, and most of what they sell are replaced law enforcement sidearms. A great place to look for ammo or something unique, but don't get ripped off buying a Glock at 75% the value of new with 10000 rounds through the barrel.
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby monschman on Sat Jul 04, 2009 4:29 am

Veldy wrote:
goalie wrote:
smacsteve wrote:I'll second or third or where ever I am on the list on the Sig 226 or 229 9MM. Forget the Glock.


Or buy a used Glock at Streichers and get 300 bucks worth of ammo to learn how to use it for the same price as that used Sig.....

;)


They charge 75%-80% of the cost of new for any Glock pistol, and most of what they sell are replaced law enforcement sidearms. A great place to look for ammo or something unique, but don't get ripped off buying a Glock at 75% the value of new with 10000 rounds through the barrel.



Dear Sir,
please go find another glock in any working condition with three mags and any round count in any store in mn for less than $300.
I picked up a used g22 there yesterday for $300. its birthday was May 30th 2009 it had trijicon nightsights on and came with three mags and an intact seal, i for one really dont feel even slightly ripped off. As a matter of fact I feel a little guilty as it was an unused department return and I got it for the used price. before you decide to make ridiculous comments in future, go have a hard bowel movement and spend the extra time the blood is rushing to your head to think thoroughly about your next comment. I have always had top notch CS at Streichers, I have always had quality products from them and they stand 110% behind everything they sell. I am a civillian and not a LEO but I am always treated just the same as the guys in uniform in the store.
BTW 10,000 out of the plastic fantastic is what I refer to as a warm up ande wouldn't bother me a bit.





BTW do you work for GM home of the $729.99 G22 w/2mags
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Re: I NEED A GUN AND I NEED IT NOW!!!!

Postby Veldy on Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:42 am

monschman wrote:
Veldy wrote:
goalie wrote:Or buy a used Glock at Streichers and get 300 bucks worth of ammo to learn how to use it for the same price as that used Sig.....
;)


They charge 75%-80% of the cost of new for any Glock pistol, and most of what they sell are replaced law enforcement sidearms. A great place to look for ammo or something unique, but don't get ripped off buying a Glock at 75% the value of new with 10000 rounds through the barrel.



Dear Sir,
please go find another glock in any working condition with three mags and any round count in any store in mn for less than $300.
I picked up a used g22 there yesterday for $300. its birthday was May 30th 2009 it had trijicon nightsights on and came with three mags and an intact seal, i for one really dont feel even slightly ripped off. As a matter of fact I feel a little guilty as it was an unused department return and I got it for the used price. before you decide to make ridiculous comments in future, go have a hard bowel movement and spend the extra time the blood is rushing to your head to think thoroughly about your next comment. I have always had top notch CS at Streichers, I have always had quality products from them and they stand 110% behind everything they sell. I am a civillian and not a LEO but I am always treated just the same as the guys in uniform in the store.
BTW 10,000 out of the plastic fantastic is what I refer to as a warm up ande wouldn't bother me a bit.

BTW do you work for GM home of the $729.99 G22 w/2mags


You got lucky. I took a walk through there last fall and they wanted $375 for a used G17; used by Law Enforcement. The few I looked at were obviously used with some grip wear and a few minor scratches on the slide and the outside of the barrel definitely looked used. However, law enforcement goes through regular training and shoots a lot of ammunition. I couldn't justify an obviously used G17 for $375 when I was able to get a new G17 (two magazines) for $499 at Sportsman's Warehouse. To each his own, but I was just giving my experience. As for your childish insults; you best leave them in the schoolyard where you picked them up in the first place. Thanks.
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