Banned in Minnesota -- huh?

[justaguy]

Glocks are Saturday Night Specials!?!

What the hell am I supposed to do with them? I cant sell them, I cant have them? I guess I will have to move.

[DeanC]

[White Horseradish]

Considering that Hi-Point managed to make a cheap gun and not hit the SNS statute, I wouldn't worry too much about it. As a crime-fighting measure it's a fail, but from consumer protection standpoint it's not too bad.

[EJSG19]

I don't mind if pistols/revolvers are cheap, but I do think they should be held to higher standards. If that means they cost more then so be it.

I've been around a few Hi-Points and Jennings' and none, I repeat none have worked with basic factory loaded ammo.

How can unreliable products be sold so readily? Cars have the lemon law. Shouldn't firearms? I've often thought that it would be nice if gun manufacturers were held to a higher standard for quality of their products. I'd love to see the QC reports at Hi-Point or Jennings and hear what they have to say in regard to their products' reliability records.

If a gun won't run on 80% of the common store-bought, factory ammo, then I'm thinking it shouldn't be allowed to be sold. Most buyers of firearms aren't the type to diagnose, test, and remedy the problem.

[Stradawhovious]

I guess I will have to move.

[MrVvrroomm]

The polymer Glocks are made out of is a variant of nylon, and I doubt it could withstand much more than 400 or 500 degrees F. Put a Glock in a 1,000 muffle furnace, and what you will get out are steel parts and some lumps of carbon.

You're pretty close. Glock frames are made from a "hybrid polymer mix with a base of Nylon 6". It's not 100% Nylon 6. Googling a bit told me that Nylon 6 is good up to about 220 degrees C, 428 degrees F.

I gotta remember to keep my Glocks away from the inside of a 1000 degree muffle furnace.

[tacticalninja32]

I gotta remember to keep my Glocks away from the inside of a 1000 degree muffle furnace.

Or sit too close to the fireplace,

[Q_Continuum]

There was a gun show video I watched (something recent, watched it about 6 months ago - current show) and they took a Springfield XD and threw it in a grill for awhile, then shot it.

[Wadero]

I guess I will have to move.

My thoughts exactly Strad.

[mattxd]

just guessing here. But my first thought was that a gun with a melting point around 1000f would be very easy to absolutely destroy, remember back in high school getting ride of you empty can in the bonfire.

[mnglocker]

just guessing here. But my first thought was that a gun with a melting point around 1000f would be very easy to absolutely destroy, remember back in high school getting ride of you empty can in the bonfire.

**** man, we used to melt wine bottles.

[White Horseradish]

I don't mind if pistols/revolvers are cheap, but I do think they should be held to higher standards. If that means they cost more then so be it.

I've been around a few Hi-Points and Jennings' and none, I repeat none have worked with basic factory loaded ammo.

How can unreliable products be sold so readily? Cars have the lemon law. Shouldn't firearms? I've often thought that it would be nice if gun manufacturers were held to a higher standard for quality of their products. I'd love to see the QC reports at Hi-Point or Jennings and hear what they have to say in regard to their products' reliability records.

If a gun won't run on 80% of the common store-bought, factory ammo, then I'm thinking it shouldn't be allowed to be sold. Most buyers of firearms aren't the type to diagnose, test, and remedy the problem.

I used to have a Hi-Point. It ran WWB with no problems whatsoever.

[mitchx3]

I've been around a few Hi-Points and Jennings' and none, I repeat none have worked with basic factory loaded ammo.

I think that may have something to do with the owners' level of interest/knowledge in firearms. A lot of people never shoot more than a box through their guns, this is more likely so with owners of cheap guns. I have no doubt that most of the members here could take an off the shelf [anything] and have it working well after 1 or 2 range sessions.

[EJSG19]

I've been around a few Hi-Points and Jennings' and none, I repeat none have worked with basic factory loaded ammo.

I think that may have something to do with the owners' level of interest/knowledge in firearms. A lot of people never shoot more than a box through their guns, this is more likely so with owners of cheap guns. I have no doubt that most of the members here could take an off the shelf [anything] and have it working well after 1 or 2 range sessions.

Right, but that is the point. Most member's here know what they're doing much more than the average gun owner, is my guess.

Joe Blow who doesn't own a single gun, goes into the gun shop and buys a Jennings because he thinks he'll save a dollar. Gun doesn't run, and maybe he doesn't even shoot it enough to figure that out. Day comes around where he really needs it, and low and behold it won't fire/cycle/whatever.

I have no worries about 75% of the members here being able to get a gun running. But we're all sort of in the Choir. The congregation is who I'm talking about.

p.s. I've never owned a jennings or a hi-point, just going off of anecdotal evidence, and that of what I've seen firsthand at the range and with friends.

[Stradawhovious]

I owned a Jennings .22 for a while, and it ran like a champ.

FWIW, IANAL, YMMV, IIRC, LOL, FTW.