what do you do when crossing to WI

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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby raytex on Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:30 pm

Quoted from WDNR

"Arms transportation:
• All firearms must be unloaded and completely enclosed within carrying cases designed
to carry a firearm when in or on any vehicle whether moving or stationary.
A holster is not a legal carrying case for a handgun in a vehicle unless it completely
encloses the handgun. All firearms must be unloaded when in or on any motor
driven boat while the motor is running.
Note: Firearms are considered unloaded if the shell or cartridge is removed from
the chamber of a firearm and any clip, magazine or cylinder attached to the firearm;
the cap is removed from a percussion muzzleloader; the flashpan is cleaned
of powder from a flint lock muzzleloader; or the powder and projectile is removed
from the barrel of an electronic ignition system muzzleloader."
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby 1911fan on Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:39 pm

THats all irrelevant. Open carry is legal. Just don't hide it.
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby gyrfalcon on Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:51 pm

1911fan wrote:THats all irrelevant. Open carry is legal. Just don't hide it.


I doubt it's irrelevant if you're driving a motor vehicle... but maybe you want to be a test case like Joel?
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby old guy on Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:15 pm

Open carry in a motor vehicle in Wisconsin is not legal, it must be unloaded & cased as in the post above. I use the cabled lock box with gun & ammo in the same box.

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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby Seismic Sam on Tue Dec 14, 2010 6:28 pm

Yeah, that's one of two major flaws with the Wisconsin Open Carry law. You can't have a loaded gun with you in the car, so carjacking is still a "safe crime" to commit in Wisconsin. Secondly, you cannot Open Carry in any establishment in wisconsin that serves liquor on the premises, which disqualifies about 25% of all buildings in Wisconsin. (hic!!) Seeing as I have been stopped by the police TWICE in my entire life, i don't really worry about it when I go from Afton over to Hudson.
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby Chunkychuck on Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:47 pm

Another important precaution for open carry in WI is the maintaining of a 1000 ft buffer from any school zone unless you are on private property. Depending on street block length, you could be a couple of blocks from a school and walking down the sidewalk and be in violation if you are not aware a school is there.
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby shadeslanding on Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:11 pm

I stop in Duluth at the bridge. Go to the back of the vehicle, open the tailgate, remove my Glock 30 from its holster (making sure to do it slowly for the benefit of all the other cars passing by), unload it and then store it in a locked gun case bolted to the floor board of my vehicle.

Then I make the approx. 2 hr. trip through Wisconsin to the U.P. Once in Michigan, I again pull over, remove my Glock from the safe, load it and holster it. I then continue my drive to Crystal Falls where I like to hunt.
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby Shipyard on Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:08 pm

Seismic Sam wrote: Secondly, you cannot Open Carry in any establishment in wisconsin that serves liquor on the premises, which disqualifies about 25% of all buildings in Wisconsin. .



you better check your math there Sam - EVERYWHERE i've been in WI serves booze. i swear the kindergarten class has budweiser juice boxes.


i just pull over at the "welcome to WI" sign and throw 'er in the trunk. comes out as soon as i see the minne-zo-tah sign on the way back in. but then again, i'm on;y accross the river when i'm deer huntin so i still get to run around with a big boom stick. works out well :D
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby Pat Cannon on Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:07 am

Shipyard wrote:EVERYWHERE i've been in WI serves booze. i swear the kindergarten class has budweiser juice boxes.


ROFPMPL

It's true though. When I saw first saw the AT&T cell phone ads that say "more bars in more places", I assumed it was a tourism ad by the Milwaukee Chamber of Commerce.
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby tt3 on Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:31 am

My cousin was telling me about sledding out to a field where there is a bar, only open in the winter for snowmobilers. Only in Wi.
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby MrVvrroomm on Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:46 am

I grew up in Wisconsin. I thank Wisconsin and my genes for my alcoholism. It's a great state to be "from".
May I assume you're not here to inquire about the alcohol or the tobacco?

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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby Pat Cannon on Wed Dec 15, 2010 10:53 am

tt3 wrote:My cousin was telling me about sledding out to a field where there is a bar, only open in the winter for snowmobilers. Only in Wi.

:) I wouldn't assume that's not in Minnesota too. One of the few things I know firsthand about snowmobiling is that it's a lot like dancing: once you've had a few drinks you think you're good at it.
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby Philo on Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:06 pm

raytex wrote:The firearm must be fully encased. Ammo doesn't have to be stored separately. Magazine can be loaded in the case, just not in the firearm.


My understanding of the law as well. It's really poorly drafted, but that's the way it goes. It is my understanding that there is no requirement to have a lock on the case, but if you leave your car unattended for any length of time, you run the risk of someone breaking in and stealing your gun.

I normally concealed carry my Springfield XD. The case it came in is made of plastic with snap latches on it. I keep that in my car for when I go into WI for work or shopping. Just before the border, I stop, pop the mag, clear the chamber, and put the bullet, mag, and pistol in the case. I latch it shut and put it under the back seat of my truck. When I get to my office (I'm self-employed), I carry the XD box inside and keep my office door locked at all times to keep the weapon secure. If I have to stay late at the office and it's time to leave, I open carry the gun on my way to the parking lot. Once I get to my car and I'm convinced that no one is around posing a potential threat, I unload/case the pistol before I get in.

Generally, if I'm out running errands, I don't like to open carry, so when I leave my truck parked for an extended period of time, I transfer everything to one of the lock boxes mentioned above.

I really can't wait until next year when WI allows concealed carry in whatever form.
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby Seismic Sam on Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:42 pm

I was talking about 25% of all the BUILDINGS in Wisconsin, including houses, business, and bars!!
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Re: what do you do when crossing to WI

Postby xracer390 on Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:14 pm

Pat Cannon wrote:I have one of the COM lock boxes ('safe' is too strong a word IMHO), with its cable around the seat support, under the front seat for those occasions. Like they show here.

But I guess I don't really know for sure if Wisconsin would want you to have the ammo separate. If so I'm a criminal.

That safe is one of those (keeps the honest guys out) safes. 21 gage is only a step above pop can.
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