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Postby chet_long on Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:32 am

If this topic has been beaten to death, I apologize. I am looking to purchase a compact 40.

I have narrowed my search to the following 2:

XDM 40 compact

Glock 23

Hoping to get some unbiased input, if that is possible. I am basically looking for some pros and cons, and any concerns that I should be aware of.

I would really like to have a chance to shoot them before I make the purchase. Any insight as to where a guy can do that?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Input needed

Postby Gecko, Extra Crispy on Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:42 am

You can try them at Bills Gun Shop and Range in Circle Pines and Robbinsdale. Both stores should have them both on hand to rent. Good luck in your choice. Make sure to keep your rental receipt and they will give you the cost of one of the rentals off the purchase of a new gun. And I think they are still giving out a range pass for two with a new gun as well.

If I'm wrong I'm sure I will be corrected.

Thier web site is http://www.billsgs.com
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Re: Input needed

Postby CZscout on Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:53 am

Hello,

I have owned and carried both of these pistols. (not that it means too much)

I like the XD 40 compact 's factory sights and general fit to my hand.
The magazine finger rest tended to pinch my skin and wiggle in the mag well when shooting. Had no performance issues with the pistol.

I do not like the factory sights that came with my Glock 23. Replaced them with 3 dot night sights. For some reason the Glock 23 is the most accurate carry pistol that I own. I just shoot the Glock better....don't know why. The Glock has also never had a mechanical issue.


They are both good, however I agree that you need to try them out yourself.
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Re: Input needed

Postby rugersol on Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:45 am

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=111300

... may not be an issue for ya, if ya got smaller hands
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Re: Input needed

Postby chet_long on Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:24 am

Thanks for the quick replies. I appreciate it. I will most definitely be shooting them before I make the purchase.
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Re: Input needed

Postby UnaStamus on Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:12 pm

This is basically an argument between French Vanilla Ice Cream and New York Vanilla. You will have to shoot them to figure out which one you like the best. The XDM provides some nice features, and many have commented that the grip is much more comfortable. However, since the Gen4 Glocks have come out, there has been a drastic increase in peoples' approval of the grip on the Glocks. The real major difference comes down to trigger pull and the action. Glocks are double action, and XD/XDMs are single action. They don't feel too different from each other, but for some people it could make a difference. The double action makes a bigger difference for law enforcement than it does the typical shooter.


ahrens wrote:http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=111300

... may not be an issue for ya, if ya got smaller hands

This knuckle issue is common with lots of holster draws. I wrap a piece of medical tape around my middle finger, and it solves the problem. It will last all day, too.
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Re: Input needed

Postby JJ on Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:09 pm

I can vouch for Chet, he's a good guy. I brought him here hoping someone had both of these and might meet up to let him try them out? Rentals on guns and overpriced range ammo suck. I am guessing he will pay range fee and provide his own ammo (maybe a Federal product of the HP variety :D ). If he decides on the Block, I have informed him about the GSSF.

All that said, I have neither, as I prefer plastic in porn stars, not firearms. And apparently he's too good for a CZ, Witness, or a S&W 686.
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Re: Input needed

Postby chet_long on Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:17 pm

JJH wrote:I can vouch for Chet, he's a good guy. I brought him here hoping someone had both of these and might meet up to let him try them out? Rentals on guns and overpriced range ammo suck. I am guessing he will pay range fee and provide his own ammo (maybe a Federal product of the HP variety :D ). If he decides on the Block, I have informed him about the GSSF.

All that said, I have neither, as I prefer plastic in porn stars, not firearms. And apparently he's too good for a CZ, Witness, or a S&W 686.


Thanks for suggesting I am a good guy, I will send you a check. I never said I was too good for the above mentioned guns, just that I have narrowed my search.
Are you ornery again to today JJ?
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Re: Input needed

Postby JJ on Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:19 pm

chet_long wrote:
Are you ornery again to today JJ?


Always. But at least I have a beer in hand, and Tullies on the smoker, to be followed by more, tullies, then pheasants. If you end up going up to Bill's North to shoot, call me and I'll see if we can maybe do it before I head to work.
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Re: Input needed

Postby mmcnx2 on Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:33 pm

I've shot both and would like to give you somethings to think about.

The Glock is the standard that most of the others have been trying to beat.

When the XD came out Glock haters thought of it as the second coming. My opinion is the trigger just plan sucks, and a good trigger job is not cheap.

Next came the M&P, it put the hurt on XD sales big time. The trigger is alot better and it is fair alternative to the Glock. It had some nice features like changable backstraps.

Glock has adapted some of those items into there next generations. So if I were ranking them it would be Glock, M&P and the the XD. And before anyone pegs for a a Glock lover, yes I own one a 27, but on the other hand i own 2 Springfields, just not XDs.
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Re: Input needed

Postby Inspiribomb on Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:44 pm

To the OP, are you referring to the brand-spankin' new XDm Compact? If so, I have the XDm-9 Compact and love the damn thing. It combines the best of the XD Subcompact with the XDm platform. I like the short grip and longer barrel (I added a modified Pearce pinky extension for comfort).
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Re: Input needed

Postby UnaStamus on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:38 pm

mmcnx2 wrote:I've shot both and would like to give you somethings to think about.

The Glock is the standard that most of the others have been trying to beat.

When the XD came out Glock haters thought of it as the second coming. My opinion is the trigger just plan sucks, and a good trigger job is not cheap.

Next came the M&P, it put the hurt on XD sales big time. The trigger is alot better and it is fair alternative to the Glock. It had some nice features like changable backstraps.

Glock has adapted some of those items into there next generations. So if I were ranking them it would be Glock, M&P and the the XD. And before anyone pegs for a a Glock lover, yes I own one a 27, but on the other hand i own 2 Springfields, just not XDs.

Interestingly enough, I often hear the opposite about the XD and M&P triggers. A lot of people that I talk to don't like the M&P triggers, but find the XD/XDMs fine. Of course, I love the Glock trigger, and some people think I'm goofy. ;)
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Re: Input needed

Postby gman1868 on Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:23 am

My M&P triggers are great... since Jon P made them nice.
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Re: Input needed

Postby RobD on Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:29 am

Bottom Line:

Try both. Either go to bills, or meet up with one of the dozens of forum members that have them, and try.

We cannot tell you what gun will work best for you. That requires your expert opinion. :D
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Re: Input needed

Postby tim on Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:53 am

Just curious how you narrowed your search to those 2 without trying them yet. Have you considered the M&P? Not to say they are poor choices, just wondering what your criteria are.
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