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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby Snowgun on Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:48 pm

farmerj wrote:
Norsesmithy wrote:A base M1A is several hundred dollars more than a base AR pattern .308. And it's not a USGI rifle, in terms of reliability.

You can upgrade it with USGI parts, or buy a more expensive M14, but then you're running in the same range as a high quality AR pattern .308, or a base model AR pattern .308 that's been upgraded to perform more reliably.



Every base AR I have looked at has been in the $1500-1800 range.

Every Base M1A I have looked at has been in the $1500-1800 range.

I got a Polytech M14 for under $500 and put it together with all NM parts replacing the bolt, barrel and operating rod, unitized the gas cylinder and it was still under $1000.

I guess I would like to see the evidence of that which you claim.


My stock 308 "Classic" from DPMS was $950.

Compare to M1a
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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby farmerj on Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:57 pm

we can play that game all night.

I can go to Cabela's and show the AR is more than the M1A.

I can show the same on gunbroker as well.

Shop around, they are pretty well priced similar in value.
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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby Snowgun on Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:48 pm

farmerj wrote:we can play that game all night.

I can go to Cabela's and show the AR is more than the M1A.

I can show the same on gunbroker as well.

Shop around, they are pretty well priced similar in value.


If you look at average store prices for stock versions of the guns (not bid sites, not used, not tricked out), the M1a will always outprice the stock 308 or ar10. That's just how it is. Base AR style 308's are cheaper to manufacture, period.

An easy way to see this is to go to http://www.gunsamerica.com and compare a search for m1a to a search for lr 308. The only m1a I could find for under 1000 was made in china.
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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby farmerj on Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:58 pm

Yop....


http://www.cabelas.com/product/POF-Semi ... l+Products

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Springfi ... l+Products


I'll run down to Cabella's and check out the racks....
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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby Snowgun on Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:15 pm

farmerj wrote:Yop....


http://www.cabelas.com/product/POF-Semi ... l+Products

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Springfi ... l+Products


I'll run down to Cabella's and check out the racks....


:lol: You are comparing a cadallac tricked out platform to a m1a! Why not be fair and compare it to the supermatch M1a at over 3K!

Did you miss Cabella's stock 308 offerings?..

Remington® R-25™

Winchester® SX-AR Semiautomatic

hell, even the Remington® R-15™ .450 Bushmaster is cheaper than the m1a!

Even buying a stock 308 straight from the manufacture is cheaper than it's counter part from springfield (linked directly from springfield armory)
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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby Norsesmithy on Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:30 pm

I see others have done my work. Thanks.
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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby Snowgun on Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:24 am

Norsesmithy wrote:I see others have done my work. Thanks.


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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby Scott Notaeh on Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:58 pm

Sounds like HammAR was right about this being the same as the 1911 vs Glock stuff. After reading this stuff and doing more research, I think I am going to hold off on this. I have convinced myself that an M1A is not the right direction for me but I am also not convinced that a reliable and affordable AR based 308 is available either. On top of this a few of you have rightly questioned my need for this so I am going to wait and think about this some more. I will pick up a bolt action 308 and will think about an AR15 for High Power.
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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby hammAR on Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:20 pm

Scott Notaeh wrote:I will pick up a bolt action 308................

Here we go again..... :P
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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby Scott Notaeh on Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:36 pm

hammAR wrote:
Scott Notaeh wrote:I will pick up a bolt action 308................

Here we go again..... :P
you are truly a glutton for punishment............ :hide:


The Applesause comment has me all confused and bewildered.
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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby Snowgun on Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:28 pm

Scott Notaeh wrote: I will pick up a bolt action 308 and will think about an AR15 for High Power.



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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby Scott Notaeh on Sun Sep 04, 2011 5:46 pm

Thank you all for the help! It was not an easy decision for me but hearing the pros and cons of all the options helped me make the right choice for me.



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Love it!!

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Re: *Update* M1A or AR based .308?

Postby adamt on Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:41 pm

Well dad gumnit Scott, After inspecting that picture it seems that fall is closer then I expected :lol:


Nice to see you "pulled the trigger" and got a real rifle.

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Re: M1A or AR based .308?

Postby 45Badger on Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:42 pm

Scott Notaeh wrote:Thank you all for the help! It was not an easy decision for me but hearing the pros and cons of all the options helped me make the right choice for me.

Love it!!

Thanks!


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Re: *Update* M1A or AR based .308?

Postby hammAR on Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:10 pm

I think he got a hell of a deal.......
congrads.......

when you are done training and working up loading library......
You can always move up to M1/14.........

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