MN Anti-Gun Bill Moving Forward

[XDM45]

Minnesota: Anti-Gun Bill Moving Forward Unless Your State Representative Hears from You!

A bill that will criminalize the private transfer of handguns and certain semi-automatic rifles at gun shows will likely be heard this week or next in the House Rules Committee. House File 285, introduced by state Representative John Lesch (DFL-66B), passed in the House Public Safety, Finance and Policy Committee by a 10 to 8 vote on April 8 after being amended to include a ban on private sales. If HF 285 passes in the House Rules Committee, it will be eligible for final consideration on the House floor as early as this week.

This type of legislation is dangerous and must be stopped, as this scheme is the first step towards criminalizing ALL private transfers and can only be enforced with gun registration. And, as we know from experiences in California, Australia and Great Britain, gun registration enables gun confiscation — only from honest citizens — since criminals do not register their guns or submit to criminal investigations. According to an internal U.S. Department of Justice memorandum, "universal" background checks will not work without requiring gun registration. Read the memo and get the facts here.

Please contact your state Representative and members of the House Rules Committee today and demand that they OPPOSE HF 285 in its entirety.

House Rules Committee:

Erin Murphy (DFL) – Chairman

651-296-8799
E-mail: rep.erin.murphy@house.mn



John Benson (DFL) – Vice Chairman

651-296-9934
E-mail: rep.john.benson@house.mn



Kurt Daudt (R)

651-296-5364
E-mail: rep.kurt.daudt@house.mn



Tony Albright (R)

651-296-5185
E-mail: rep.tony.albright@house.mn



Sarah Anderson (R)

651-296-5511
E-mail: rep.sarah.anderson@house.mn



Lyndon Carlson Sr. (DFL)

651-296-4255
E-mail: rep.lyndon.carlson@house.mn



Matt Dean (R)

651-296-3018
E-mail: rep.matt.dean@house.mn



Ron Erhardt (DFL)

651-296-4363
E-mail: rep.ron.erhardt@house.mn



Rick Hansen (DFL)

651-296-6828
E-mail: rep.rick.hansen@house.mn



Debra Hilstrom (DFL)

651-296-3709
E-mail: rep.debra.hilstrom@house.mn



Joe Hoppe (R)

651-296-5066
E-mail: rep.joe.hoppe@house.mn



Melissa Hortman (DFL)

651-296-4280
E-mail: rep.melissa.hortman@house.mn



Sheldon Johnson (DFL)

651-296-4201
E-mail: rep.sheldon.johnson@house.mn



Tim Kelly (R)

651-296-8635
E-mail: rep.tim.kelly@house.mn



Ann Lenczewski (DFL)

651-296-4218
E-mail: rep.ann.lenczewski@house.mn



John Lesch (DFL)

651-296-4224
E-mail: rep.john.lesch@house.mn



Leon Lillie (DFL)

651-296-1188
E-mail: rep.leon.lillie@house.mn



Jenifer Loon (R)

651-296-7449
E-mail: rep.jenifer.loon@house.mn



Carly Melin (DFL)

651-296-0172
E-mail: rep.carly.melin@house.mn



Kim Norton (DFL)

651-296-9249
E-mail: rep.kim.norton@house.mn



Gene Pelowski Jr. (DFL)

651-296-8637
E-mail: rep.gene.pelowski@house.mn



Joyce Peppin (R)

651-296-7806
E-mail: rep.joyce.peppin@house.mn



John Persell (DFL)

651-296-5516
E-mail: rep.john.persell@house.mn



Tim Sanders (R)

651-296-4226
E-mail: rep.tim.sanders@house.mn



Paul Torkelson (R)

651-296-9303
E-mail: rep.paul.torkelson@house.mn



John Ward (DFL)

651-296-4333
E-mail: rep.john.ward@house.mn



Kelby Woodard (R)

651-296-7065
E-mail: rep.kelby.woodard@house.mn



Kurt Zellers (R)

651-296-5502
E-mail: rep.kurt.zellers@house.mn

[Deputyhiro]

Letter written.

[Lights]

Sent!

[photogpat]

Call your Reps too...several times a day if you can.

[bensdad]

I'll make these calls first thing in the morning.

[XDM45]

I'm jobless right now. I have nothing BUT time. Their life is going to be Hell.

[bensdad]

I'm jobless right now. I have nothing BUT time. Their life is going to be Hell.

Hell does not exist.

ETA: Hey xdm, do you mind if I cross-post this to a couple other sites? I already put it on thehighroad w/o asking. Sorry Can I put it on arfcom?

[XDM45]

I'm jobless right now. I have nothing BUT time. Their life is going to be Hell.

Hell does not exist.

ETA: Hey xdm, do you mind if I cross-post this to a couple other sites? I already put it on thehighroad w/o asking. Sorry Can I put it on arfcom?

Yeah, please do. I already hit here, carryforum and another site, but not the ones you listed. Go for it.

Also, if there is a Heaven or a Hell, it's of their own creation by their intent, actions and deeds. I'm merely showing them the door

[Nalez]

I was just reading over a portion of this bill:

Subd. 12. Ammunition. "Ammunition" means ammunition or cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or propellent powder designed for use in any firearm.
...
Subdivision 1. Ineligible persons. The following persons shall not be entitled to possess ammunition or a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon or, except for clause (1), any other firearm
....
(3) a person who is or has ever been ordered committed in Minnesota or elsewhere by a judicial determination that the person is mentally ill

So, Someone tries to commit suicide by firearm, and is found to be mentally ill by a judicial process. The bullet is lodged within them; say near the spinal cord; surgery to remove the bullet would prove to be fatal.

Are they breaking the law because "they are in position of a bullet designed for use in any firearm"?

[XDM45]

I was just reading over a portion of this bill:

Subd. 12. Ammunition. "Ammunition" means ammunition or cartridge cases, primers, bullets, or propellent powder designed for use in any firearm.
...
Subdivision 1. Ineligible persons. The following persons shall not be entitled to possess ammunition or a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon or, except for clause (1), any other firearm
....
(3) a person who is or has ever been ordered committed in Minnesota or elsewhere by a judicial determination that the person is mentally ill

So, Someone tries to commit suicide by firearm, and is found to be mentally ill by a judicial process. The bullet is lodged within them; say near the spinal cord; surgery to remove the bullet would prove to be fatal.

Are they breaking the law because "they are in position of a bullet designed for use in any firearm"?

Gotta love it, don't ya?

[Li'l Beaver]

I just finished e-mailing each and everyone of the committee members and will continue to follow up with additional contacts until they shut the legislature down, which can't be too soon in my opinion!

[CarryCauseICan]

I sent a message via facebook to Rep. Cornish about this. I asked;

What's Happening with Lesch's Anti gun bill HF 285? Why is there little reporting on it? It already passed out of committee!

This is the message he sent back;

Nothing. It can sit on the General Register forever. For now it's just in limbo

[farmerj]

you should also email them a copy of the CURRENT law....

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=624.713

624.713 CERTAIN PERSONS NOT TO POSSESS FIREARMS.
Subdivision 1.Ineligible persons. The following persons shall not be entitled to possess a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon or, except for clause (1), any other firearm:

...snip.....

(3) a person who is or has ever been committed in Minnesota or elsewhere by a judicial determination that the person is mentally ill, developmentally disabled, or mentally ill and dangerous to the public, as defined in section 253B.02, to a treatment facility, or who has ever been found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty by reason of mental illness, unless the person's ability to possess a firearm has been restored under subdivision 4;

[farmerj]

think more people need to READ all of the amendment as well for themselves...

Not asking or telling people to go through a FFL, but they are now defining what is required as a minimum. And honestly, most people do this already unless they are KNOWN to the other person like a family member.



They want to ADD (b) to the current law.
http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/cco/jo ... 2.htm#1783

Subd. 2. Transfers; proof of eligibility required. (a) No person shall transfer a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon at a gun show unless the transferor or the transferee is a federally licensed firearms dealer except as provided in this section.


(b) When two parties, neither of whom is a federally licensed firearms dealer, desire to transfer a pistol or semiautomatic military-style assault weapon at a gun show, the transferee must present the transferor a valid permit to purchase issued under section 624.7131 or a valid permit to carry a pistol issued under section 624.714 prior to completing the transfer.

Subd. 3. Exclusion. This section does not apply to transfers of antique firearms as defined in section 624.712, subdivision 3.

[jhp]

Also, what they are adding is only required when at a gun show, as defined in the amendment.

Not every private party sale (that I can tell.)