No ATF with shutdown?

[yukonjasper]

It is amazing how ridiculous things get when government is involved. Since the government is 'shut down', NASA is 'closed'. So, their web site has been changed to say: "Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not available.". Well, if you still have the web servers on-line, powered up, connected to the network, in a functional datacenter, in order to display this 'closed' message then why can't you just display the regular damned web site?? I'm pretty sure they didn't push the EPO button and shut it all down. Ugh.

BB

Yup they go out of their way to make people "suffer". Same when the state or fed withold local government funding and the first thing they can think of is to lay off the police and fire or shut down a school. The obvious answer would be to shut down some non essential service or cut back on staffing at the libraries or parks, but that wouldn't be as visible and shocking to John Q Public. Same for schools, instead of cutting back on administrative staff, they threaten to stop the busses or stop buying books, paper, pencils, fund sports etc. - whatever they can think of to make peoples lives more complicated to punish them for having the nerve to challenge how they choose to waste money. Its called leverage and it really works because people don't like to be inconvenienced.

[Ty179]

It is amazing how ridiculous things get when government is involved. Since the government is 'shut down', NASA is 'closed'. So, their web site has been changed to say: "Due to the lapse in federal government funding, this website is not available.". Well, if you still have the web servers on-line, powered up, connected to the network, in a functional datacenter, in order to display this 'closed' message then why can't you just display the regular damned web site?? I'm pretty sure they didn't push the EPO button and shut it all down. Ugh.

BB

Yup they go out of their way to make people "suffer". Same when the state or fed withold local government funding and the first thing they can think of is to lay off the police and fire or shut down a school. The obvious answer would be to shut down some non essential service or cut back on staffing at the libraries or parks, but that wouldn't be as visible and shocking to John Q Public. Same for schools, instead of cutting back on administrative staff, they threaten to stop the busses or stop buying books, paper, pencils, fund sports etc. - whatever they can think of to make peoples lives more complicated to punish them for having the nerve to challenge how they choose to waste money. Its called leverage and it really works because people don't like to be inconvenienced.

There's actually a term for it. It's called the Washington Monument Effect, it was coined back in the 60's. Your analysis is spot on by the way.

[TaTaToothy]

Or maybe Vladamir can handle that situation too since BHO can't.

Funny. G-dub could call him "Pooty-Poot", BHO pretty much has to call him sir. That tells ya somethin' right there.

In fairness President Bush also said he had "looked into Putin's soul" and found him trustworthy. Not sure it makes sense to consider President Bush an oracle of wisdom when it comes to US-Russian relations either.

[Ironbear]

In fairness President Bush also said he had "looked into Putin's soul" and found him trustworthy. Not sure it makes sense to consider President Bush an oracle of wisdom when it comes to US-Russian relations either.

Not sure one politician calling another politician "trustworthy" means the same thing as most of us calling someone trustworthy.

In this case, by "trustworthy", Bush might have meant that Putin could be trusted to not nuke Monaco after an all-night bender losing at cards... to which I would probably agree...

As far as the Washington Monument effect... I had never heard the term before but it is a pretty obvious tactic if you don't actually want to make hard, smart decisions...

[Brunsi]

They closed cemetery's, wtf......this just go's to show they are just playing games. I am loosing any respect for government employees at the top level very fast. Look at the recent EPA scandal.

[Snakeman721]

They closed cemetery's, wtf......this just go's to show they are just playing games. I am loosing any respect for government employees at the top level very fast. Look at the recent EPA scandal.

What? You still had respect for top level government employees? I lost my respect for them DECADES ago! Way, way, way too many liers, bumblers, miscreants, and total incompetents that got the job SOLEY because of WHO they knew and not because they were qualified for it.

[BigBlue]

Closing biking paths, parking lots, private parks and facilities that 'partner' with NPS but are not funded in any way by the goverment. Entirely ridiculous. Simply the white house playing games and trying to do what they can to play up how 'awful' the shutdown is. It's like a 8 year old throwing a tantrum because he didn't get his way.

[FJ540]

bama thinks he's king. What'd you expect?

[BigBlue]

More ridiculous shutdowns from the tantrum-thrower-in-chief:

Closing the ocean
Closing wetlands, wildlife management areas

And the bad thing is that all the people who already support the libs and Obummer don't even see these things as problems.

[FJ540]

Rather than worrying about a budget that we still can't pay, how about they just impeach him? Change I can believe in!

[xd ED]

More ridiculous shutdowns from the tantrum-thrower-in-chief:

Closing the ocean
Closing wetlands, wildlife management areas

And the bad thing is that all the people who already support the libs and Obummer don't even see these things as problems.

Yep this is beyond pathetic. As I mentioned elsewhere, I saw a parking lot blocked with a brand new flasher barricade, the cost of which certainly exceeded any amount of money spent maintaining this small lot for a year.

[Nougat]

More ridiculous shutdowns from the tantrum-thrower-in-chief:

Closing the ocean
Closing wetlands, wildlife management areas

And the bad thing is that all the people who already support the libs and Obummer don't even see these things as problems.

Outside is closed? like the dnr isn't going to be there to check tags and limits and stuff to save money? or people who normally wouldn't be posted will be there to stop freedoms?

[FJ540]

DNR is a State agency.

[Nougat]

DNR is a State agency.

ok. so how does closing areas managed by state agencies make any sense then?

[FJ540]

Don't ask me... I didn't vote for him.